Originally Posted by Tuco
Originally Posted by Brewman
I mean I heard some very dumb people say that orcs must not receive an ASI penalty to INT/CHA because that's racist against a certain race of real life humans.
What the hell? Orcs and half orcs are NOT HUMAN that is the entire point.

Well, I remember when some people on twitter threw an hissy fit claiming that "goblins in Hogwarts Legacy were antisemitic because they resembled jews", which is probably a parallel the devs themselves never even attempted and some of the most hilariously unintentionally (?) racist things I've ever heard.

The difference is that Orcs aren't real and Jews are. And Orcs are in BG3/D&D and J.K.-Rowling-style goblins aren't.

So let's not start a discussion about possible anti-semitic undertones in the depiction of Rowling's wizarding world goblins as it's utterly irrelevant here.

And since I'm posting anyway, a reminder to anyone who needs it that there's really no need to be rude or dismissive about people even if they're not here. Perhaps even especially if they're not here to defend themselves against possible misrepresentation. Quite apart from the fact we have quite enough to do debating with one another without bringing in notional folk who have views noone here has said they share grin

EDIT: And I'm also very disappointed to see another post talking about "woke mobs" despite my point yesterday that the term carries way too much political baggage and is generally best avoided. We can talk about what we want to see or not see in a game without opening another front in the culture wars. Please, be mindful that these are open, public forums for fun and friendly discussion of Larian's games for everyone interested, regardless of political persuasion. Part of keeping them that way is not using language that is unnecessarily political, is frequently used to dismiss or belittle people's politics or is likely to provoke political debate not directly related to the game.

Last edited by The Red Queen; 05/07/23 07:40 PM.

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