Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General who do you think the new origin character will be?

My guess was more he was dominated during the blood in baldurs gate rather than possessed, so more of a frame job than having a rider. Would be interesting if he was under a geas, tho in my opinion... I do love the geas spell.

I'll rather neither and not have yet another fucking pyschopath to choose from?

Damn it Larian this Doucheborn serial killer better not be yet another evil origin or even an edgelord mind controlled "good" serial killer. So pissed right now.

Larian you not have even a single writer on your team that can write an interesting, none evil, not edgelord character, like damn it.

The tweet does seperate the origin sentance and new play sentance, from the Dragonborn Sorcerer statement, so I hold out a shred of hope that when folks said more good origins please, Larian didn't some how hear more evil, edge lord characters please. Fuck.

The investigator gets killed in the video.

the investigator was also referred to as tav

So either a reference to the default character name, or we can investigate this dragonborn as part of a quest in the game. That doesn't sound like the investigator is an origin character.

On alignment, good and evil are real and exist regardless of what WotC and Larian may want to claim. It's like when silly softball leagues do away with keeping score, but even little kids can and do keep score anyway. I am more than capable of keeping score even if Larian wants to paper over those real differences between good and evil.

And neutral is not good, so lumping in neutral companions with the good side doesn't fly with me. So my claim that there is no good party very much still stands.

As for the possible early reveal of who may be the last companion, my reaction is exactly the same as your reaction, @Gray Ghost. I am stunned Larian would throw out yet another utterly despicable evil companion. I revive my claim that Larian hates the idea of having to provide good characters, and throwing out recycled retreads Jaheira and Minsc as companions is their way of adding a couple of "good" companions on the cheap without having to expend (which is to say waste) any effort or resources on creating new good companions.

I didnt play the game ... so maybe what im about to say it complete bullshit.
Dont beat me.

But it seems quite odd that this Dragonborn would be final origin ...
I mean, he have a story in Baldur's Gate ...
But even if this web story is a prequel, and it all happened before we were kidnapped.
He is allready murdering people ... that sounds to me like work of/for Bhaal ...

Why would Bhaal make someone, who is allready working for him a True Soul? O_o
Doesnt seem necessary to me.

It would make much more sense if this Dragonborn would be in fact final (lesser?) Antagonist ...
But we allready know its supposed to be pale woman with even paler eyes ...

Presuming Death Three is indeed the Absolute, as many people speculate.
Bane, the tyrant > Gortash
Myrkul, the necromancer > Ketheric
Bhaal, the assassin > Edgy Mc Edgington ... aka. Ed

So ... it smells to me like either this Dragonborn is aspirant to position of chosen one ... or, since he is wearing sorcerer robe, he is using Discuise Self.

But there is nothing "new" about the Dragonborn "way of playing" ...
We allready had Sorcerer ...
And we allready have Astarion ...

If this is the hint ... and im just speculating wildly ...
What IF they are talking about the Goblin?

I'm starting to believe your right. Even the two "good" origins are super edge lords, with massive infernal connections beyond Karlach's race. One is part infernal warmachine who served Zariel, the other sold his soul to a Cambion (a super hot Cambion admittedly).

Wtf is so hard about coming up with an interesting, none evil, none edge lord character? Like they could have had Delina or Neyrs or or Doric or Simon or a created a Harper spy with a sense of wonder, or a Paladin with a strong, yet merciful sense of Justice? I mean they could also have gone with Alfira.

Infinate options they had to choose from and they picked the second worst one, serial killer, after pedophile. Great we get to play Jack the Ripper.

I'm pretty close to saying fuck all the Companions, and play a Tav with 3 Hirelings at this point, even though I like Minsc, as a form of protest again Larians inability to do none grim dark origin characters.

Im sory ... who? O_o

IF its the Dragonborn Sorcerer, the new way of playing will likely be as THE BAD GUY instead of as one of the Protagonists. I suspect that the Dragonborn is the Bhaal Aligned archvillian, so if playable you'll be able to play as part of the Absolute's forces or whatever these three villians are to the Absolute. That makes him different from the rest of the evil origin characters, who are at least dark protagonists and on the same side roughly as each other.

How your supposed to build a party with anybody, but Minthara and Asterion I don't know.

I'm soooooo hoping that this is just bad editing by Larian and the bit about the pyscho Dragonborn & the bit about new origin character with new way to play are completely seperate. The tweet did seem to seperate them.

Honest this has made me not want to play with the Companions at all. I have a head arch now.

Karlach is supposed to have a heart of gold, which would be more exciting if Zariel hadn't rip it out and replaced it with an Infernal Warmachine, but hey she probably like puppies at least.

And Wyll tries to be good, even if he sold his soul to Mizora, at least he had good intentions!

Both grim dark as Hell, literally, and that is what passes for good guys.

They can't be the archvillain, since that was described as a pale young woman with even paler eyes,with a humanish, not-scaly silhouette. Unless Larian are so obsessed with unearned hype that they purposefully hid the fact that the villain was a dragonborn, which would honestly just disgust me.

In the interest of holding out some measure of hope, in the - admittedly very well-done - full color picture, the dragonborn appears to almost have their eyes closed. Maybe it's just the angle making it look like that, but maybe it's more evidence that the dragonborn is mind-controled and an unwilling participant.

I think the origin characters are all pretty interesting and odds are I will be doing multiple plays of the game with all of them in my party. But I have very little interest in playing as any of them - unless this last one really blows me away.

They are advertising that this new one is a different way to play and I am thinking that the little hobgoblin guy, not the dragon, is actually the companion. Maybe a shapeshifter or a bard with a very sinister twist on bardic inspiration or something? In the video his eyes are red, then all of the sudden the dragon's eyes glow red. Or maybe the hobgoblin is a villain we eventually face and the dragon was framed or something - so he is trying to clear his name?

I am also a little confused on the lack of good origins/companions given that most people who play games end up going down that path. But given the adjustments Larian has already made I am starting to think that the origins (outside of the ones who are blatantly good or evil) can kind of go both ways at this point, depending on the decisions you make or instructions you give them.

Sort of off-topic, but when you play as an origin, do you choose their dialogue (voiced I assume?), and basically decide their personality? I never played an origin in DOS2, so I'm not sure how exactly it works. If you do, I don't really see the point in playing an origin? Can you not see their full quest if they're simply a party member?

I think the desire for non-edgelord characters is very fair. It definitely is a major blind spot they have.

My favorite video game party members come from golden age Final Fantasy and Planescape: Torment.


Larian definitely need to expand their concept of what a cool character is. They are kind of stuck in one mold, but there is a lot of ways to craft compelling characters. You can have a bunch of crazy badasses but it’s easier to pull off if there is also a few silly or comic relief characters.

Yeah. I definitely think we needed at least a couple more...

"There is some messed up stuff happening around here and I am a brave hero who wants to help out of the kindness of my heart" types. I imagine writers for these games are potentially getting sick of that type of character and they want to add some edge to a lot of them. But I still enjoy at least a couple of those... and a well written/interesting ones would have definitely increased the odds I played an origin character at some point.

It definitely seems like the 'companions' (not origins) have more of a slant toward being your typical good guys (outside of the one obviously evil one).

I know they weren't direct companions, but I always thought The Witcher 3 did 'good guys' really well. Ciri, Triss and Yen all had very different personalities and motives - but they were trying to accomplish the same thing and be "good". Vesemir, Lambert and Eskel were all different as well, but could fall under being 'good guys'.

Larian characters are talked about all over the internet. Some of them have fan clubs.

I think they're pretty good at making characters. Shrug.

In DOS2 (haven't played in a while) I remember you getting all of the lines the regular characters got, but from time to time you could also have special dialogue options that only the origin you are playing would get.

So if you played a custom character and someone asked "What are we going to do about this?" you would get the options of...

1. [Noble] I come from high places and I say we let them starve!
2. Let's go help and feed them.
3. This isn't my problem.
4. I met a witch on the other side of the map who might be able to help.

But if you were playing The Red Prince it would be like...

1. [Noble] I come from high places and I say we let them starve!
2. Let's go help and feed them.
3. This isn't my problem.
4. I met a witch on the other side of the map who might be able to help.
5. [Red Prince] A noble born lizard does not get his hands dirty with this type of filth!
6. [Red Prince] In my kingdom even the lowest among us will be fed, I guess.

Im actually quite curious about how this will work ...

Will you be able to make Shadowheart into Gith loving, benevolent Shar worshipper?
Or Wyll into selfish, civilians murdering, psychopatic asshole?
Or Astarion into ... a decent person?

Curiouser and curiouser.

I had same question some time ago ... it was pointed to me that, acording to datamining, they all have personalized tadpole dreams ... its also quite possible there will be some extra informations, that would remain hidden to us.

Im quite curious about this aswell ...
Since Astarion should know he is a Vampire spawn ... i wonder how soon and if we will be able to tell the others.
It seems clear that his is supposed to be our little secret, but thats not nearly as interesting.