Originally Posted by Brewman
Look guys, stop screaming about consent.
Consent is about adult human beings doing whatever they want together.
And guess what, 2 adult human beings who consent to have sex with each other can STILL BE DOING SOMETHING EVIL WHEN THEY DO IT WITH CONSENT.
Easy example: a married man and an unmarried woman both consent to have sex with each other. What they do is evil, no questions about it.
Consent does not morality make. Consent is a neccessary but insufficient component of acceptable sexual conduct.

Another thing: Screaming about how it's magic and how it's not real is like saying that trans-women are not real women.
Yes it is. Also, for the duration of the spell, Halsin is a real bear, with the attributes, the appearance and the essence of what a bear actually is.
So yes, it is beastiality.

I have read everything that you wrote both here and in the other thread, and your excuses are really bad. Having a libertine attitude about beastiality is just the best way for you to poke the bear (pun intended). I actually think most of you totally disagree with beastiality and just find this a fun way to annoy people who are outraged over this. I'm not outraged myself, I'm just putting my 2 cents out there. You can do whatever you want, although I will state that you shouln NOT do whatever you want when it's a vile and evil thing.

Umm a man having sex with an unmarried woman is not evil. It might be a shitty thing to do if you are cheating on your wife, but not evil.