Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Please consider removing racial Ability Score Increases!

Here is he thing and my issue, yes orcs is on a general level stronger and sturdier, as elves is generally more agile, etc and so fourth... but i still think the we the players isnt general we are the exceptions and thus a mage orc should or could have a +2 to int, and be just as good as a high elf mage... its much much less common, but i think its fairly fair and open up all races for all classes in a much more fair way...

To make a example if you look at background in DnD 5e, its actually stated that the backgorund in PHB is just examples and something that is just a example of a urchin... and again, not all urchins in the entire world comes from the same form, its kinda retarded to think the all Urchins in the entire universe and planes all have Sleight of hands and Stealth, they could as well have survival and persuasion... its outright stated you can make your own background...

And to further this, drow are generally evil... is that seen that All drow have a intereic + to their evil axis and thus cant have certain levels of good ?... my point is yes drows is generally evil but on the rare occasion a just as good aligned drow exist, like drizzt ?!?...

Do i think there should be cultural and racial characteristics, i sure do, but i rather see it have a certain list of more loosly apropriate racial features, like for example that forest gnomes can speak with aimals, or dwarves speak has a affinity with rock stuff...

That being said, i can play eitherway, but i do like the path DnD one is taking even more so in regards to half "races"... My issue is f people want all races to be attributed by their general atributes then that should be across everything, meaning all drows is evil, since their generally evil, or atleast they cant be good since they have a plus towards evil, wich would be the same for orcs, githiyanki... right ?

So, after all, according to @TheRedQueen, it seems like what we are getting is the complete absence of racial abilities and a possibility to assign a floating +2 to one ability and a +1 to another. There is also no information on whether this is the only option, the main option or the optional rule. If this is the only option, then I am slightly upset, because for me this disconnects your character from the rest of the world in a bad way. However, I am not mad about it and still think that its going to be fun exploring the new system and all the possibilities.

So, after all, according to @TheRedQueen, it seems like what we are getting is the complete absence of racial abilities and a possibility to assign a floating +2 to one ability and a +1 to another. There is also no information on whether this is the only option, the main option or the optional rule. If this is the only option, then I am slightly upset, because for me this disconnects your character from the rest of the world in a bad way. However, I am not mad about it and still think that its going to be fun exploring the new system and all the possibilities.

So, after all, according to @TheRedQueen, it seems like what we are getting is the complete absence of racial abilities and a possibility to assign a floating +2 to one ability and a +1 to another. There is also no information on whether this is the only option, the main option or the optional rule. If this is the only option, then I am slightly upset, because for me this disconnects your character from the rest of the world in a bad way. However, I am not mad about it and still think that its going to be fun exploring the new system and all the possibilities.

@TheRedQueen has said on several occasions that she knows no more than we know.
So, where did she get this information? Is this just a guess, or legitimate, developer-confirmed information?
@neprostoman, could you quote what she said?

It may be ironic given that I requested the very thing, but I have a bittersweet feeling about it now since this thread reminded me that many players like racial bonuses. I hope that everyone can play the character they like and this change turns out to be an improvement for the game overall.

Its not very convenient for me to quote using the phone, but in her feedback thread she told everyone about being at PFH and having an opportunity to play the game, starting with the character creator. So this seems to be true, even if we don't like it.

@neprostoman, could you quote what she said?

thread reminded me that many players like racial bonuses

https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=856451#Post856451

Ok, now I'm even more convinced that it was just a test version, since it looks like humans also had +2/+1 which would make them a useless race, since they have nothing at all besides their +1 bonus to everything.
Damn @neprostoman, you scared the crap out of me for a second

Hahaha, wasn't my intention, sorry! I am still not very optimistic about the game keeping the racial abilities in place.

When a game evolves there is always someone who is more affectionate to the old system than others. You can see this with sequels, new editions, adaptations and whatnot. To not change means to remain stale and never improve. Not all changes are for the better, that's sure, but we know that that's the goal, wether the idea fail or succeed.

Larian is our DM and they are adapting a game through an overly different medium. At the table I can ask my DM to change one thing to another, and Larian is simply that master that said yes.

Even without changing medium I'm sure that many people wouldn't play in a campaign dmed by me because I've a lot of Houserules myself, like giving advantage and disadvantage to interpretation, like ignoring busy hands for somatic components, like using potions as bonus actions and so on. You can't please everyone.