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Well noted. That makes getting nabbed feel even more plausible

I'm pretty sure, you will have to fight the surgeon and his nurses, If you are not Sharran and managing some high persuasion roles. And the surgeon has something to do with Ketheric Thom, his last name is Thom too, so probably story relevant.

And don't get me wrong, I dig the hospital scene, everything was deliciously creepy and horrifying, but I wonder how people clutch pearls over a consensual sex scene between adults, but seeing an innocent man getting slaughtered in the most painful way on an operation table is totally shiny - or Killing children on that matter. Maybe some people should revaluate their moral codes a bit.

And another thing, I found funny was, that they teamed Halsin with Astarion in THAT scene, since I suspect those two to not really getting along as companions. I would say, the only companion, that is less likely to be in a romance with Halsin, is Minthara, because she will be dead and Halsin probably helped in that 😂

No, I agree. Larian has been adding gratuitous violence already in D:OS2. It’s the same thing exploitation films did - throwing in ludicrous stuff to generate buzz and interest.

I really don't want to talk about the bear scene, but you keep pushing the sex violence comparison.

Sex is prevalent in our lives, extreme violence is not (for most of us). The former subject matter is more real - we can actually do that stuff if desired, the latter just fantasy (outside of war, which is described as a nightmare). We all have personal sexual preferences and standards, there are things we like and things that cross our line. It's not hard to empathize that some people found parts of the sex scene unacceptable to them.

The game is done, the PFH shown, can't change anything. The only thing open to the offended is to post their dissatisfaction. The sheer number of people offended should indeed invite some reevaluation. I note that I can't find the latest PFH on Larian's Steam page, but I can see their December one. It'll be telling how Larian decides to publicize this PFH.

I'm not pushing anything, I just pointed out the bias here.

You are probably correct about the crazy doctor scene.

Halsin and Minthara? So maybe necrophilia?

Have those of you complaining about the supposed hypocrisy of being offended by the bestiality scene vs. whatever violence scenes you are talking about ever considered that maybe we aren't all as familiar with all the tiny details of this game as you are and therefore don't already know about all of these other possible areas of concern? Well thanks for the warning that it isn't just the bestiality that is the only evil celebrated as desirable options for our characters' participation. *sigh* I was hoping for another great RPG along the lines of Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, and not a simulator for players to live out all of their darkest and depraved sexual and violent fantasies. As excited as I was for BG3 and having enjoyed previous Larian games, it sounds like I really may need to take a pass with this one. Not really sure what Larian was thinking here.

There's an awful lot of hyperbole being thrown around in these discussions. This is very much a great game, and there are many different ways to enjoy it that aren't like what you're describing.

For some reason BG3 is one of the bestsellers in the category.

Two of the most senseless and violent scenes featured in the PFH multiplatform livestream by Larian the other night. They probably feature in umpteen videos by various content creators. Hanging around the forum dedicated to the game is probably not the best idea if you wish to remain ignorant of the game's contents.

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Then stop repeating yourself, leave the forums, and go play one of the MANY excellent games releasing soon instead already? I'm kinda tired of this discussion because no one is really having it, they're all just whining. There is no bestiality there. This is a sapient creature with free will that is of age and understands the concept of sex and so can reasonably communicate consent. While it is 10000000% realistic to be disgusted about it, many of the reactions are incredibly melodramatic. It is well established in DnD that many creatures (dragons, in particular) like to disguise themselves as humanoids and bonk other humanoids... but they are instead animal-like beings lying to you.

Frankly, I'd disappointed by both folks like you and larian for making a joke out of this, as there's a lot of narrative potential being left untapped. Imagine a centaur raised in a human village loathing his body and wishing he had been "born right" because no one treats him like a true human nor would they ever realistically consider him a romantic partner believing it's taboo, leaving him too terrified to ever coffees to his human love. You could replace this with aliens in sci-fi, like andalites.

Whether or not you agree it's taboo or believe sapience alone makes them person enough for romantic interests to overcome biological incompatibilities (cultural or otherwise), I think it'd be hard not to see this as a far more interesting direction, especially since it'd still be relatable (even among us humans, many loathe their bodies for unfair reasons) and would be more realistic in a world full of nearly infinite amounts of sapient creatures.

Fantasy ignores this aspect of culture a lot via coping out with human transformations, and I get why, but I still genuinely believe this can be explored without turning into some lowbrow porno.

Secondly, I also strongly agree that it's likely Halsin is a werebear and is simply hiding his condition as a wildshape form, because druids tend to have complete control over their magic.

Anyway, if a randamo scene you're unlikely to ever see--and one that CLEARLY has options to dislike intimacy with him in that form--bothers you this much, I'd be raising my eyebrows real high at you while wondering if you're unable to tell the difference between fiction and reality.

Either way, whining about it isn't going to help anyone, let alone you, so go ahead and remove yourself from the situation and community already, yeesy. You are the extreme minority. After the PFH, Baldur's Gate 3 jumped to 4th bestseller in the middle of a big Steam sale. Most people had a normal, well-adjusted reaction to it and laughed it off or jokingly decided to double down on lathering themselves in honey.

Coming to the forum specifically to make a statement concerning the bestiality decision isn't the same as "hanging around the forum" or watching umpteen videos on YouTube. Kind of hard to ignore the ones coming out about BG3 involving bear sex though considering how until this very week, BG3 had been the game I had been most excited by this year.


That's exactly my plan. I still have some hope left for Starfield. Otherwise the backlog of RPGs that haven't had to resort to bestiality and/or senseless violent scenes (to quote the person above) in order to increase sales on Steam is still out there.