Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Why No Dwarves?

I think there are a couple of issues. One is simply development time; they had certain characters in mind and that was all they had the ability to develop in the available time. I know I wouldn't want EA to go on too much longer. I also think it's a repercussion of going with an undersized party. By limiting party size to four they've made it less rewarding to have more characters. You're already forced to leave more characters on the bench than you can bring with you with only 10 total companions (9 of whom you can have on your bench in a given playthrough). Adding two or three more characters would just make everything that much harder.

You can play short folk as Tav or Dark Urge and thereae short folk Hirelings.

You dont even understand the post so why reply?

One of the issues I've seen regarding Dwarves, Halflings and Gnomes is how they can be mistaken for children, height-wise. Especially when it comes to sex scenes, it might look very weird and some might have been put off by that.

They weren't put off by a BEAR sex scene. That makes me doubt Larian was really concerned by the chance of peerl clutching at having sex scenes with adults who are short but proportioned hardly at all like children. Plus we can be short races, as everyone points out.

It seems like you are missing the point ...

There either is no issue, or its omnipresent.
Depends on your point of view.

If dialogues were problem ... we still have it.
If romance scenes were problem ... we still have it.
If models were problem ... we still have it.

Excluding any race from our party roster dont fix a thing!

It was a joke about precisely that...

Where did you get that?

From the PFH, there is a body type panel in the bottom right corner, if you watch the record on 0.25 speed you can clearly see that some have races have 2 options (I suspect female and male body) and other have 4.

They look nothing like children. There are short people IRL, should they be forbidden to have sex? 🤷

I can confirm this from my own experience of the game. I didn't go through every race, but noted that human and elf have 4 body types (male normal/buff and female normal/buff) whereas halflings, half-orcs and dragonborn have just two (male and female).

I didn't note how many types there were for dwarves but that probably can be spotted in the PFH playback.


I agree with this. Whatever the reason for not having shorter race characters among the companions (which I, like others, am disappointed about), I don't believe for an instant it has anything to do with equating them to children. In fact, I suspect that Larian writers would be keen to actively push against such an attitude, and the shorter race NPCs we do have don't strike me as either childlike or desexualised.

Plus, as others have said, our custom characters or Dark Urges can be shorter races, and Larian haven't shied away from allowing them to have sex with other races.

I think we are safe to put that theory about the rationale out of our minds and look elsewhere.

Possibly ...
Its certainly common argument.

Even tho ... it seems false to be honest.
Not just bcs there are clear marks of maturity (like breasts) ...
But mainly bcs if we dont make small person in order to avoid scene where big person is bangin with small person ... the only person small person can bang is big person.

I fail to see how is that better.

Have you ever heard about Cobra Effect?

I know they look nothing like children, face-wise but if you turn them around and look at them from the back, you can't tell because of their height. I now this was a hot topic in the past when we saw some concept art regarding sex and some was very graphic. All I'm saying is that a tall person having sex with a very short person might look wrong if you don't know that they are an adult. As for real life, that's a different story, most short people are not shorter than 4'10 and no-one is watching you have sex.

Hey! No A Cup shaming!!!111

But you do know, that they are adults, so where IS the problem? 🤷

Except you know that ...

Also ...
I still dont see why having an Tall PC humping Short NPC is bad ...
But gaving Short PC humping Tall NPC is perfectly ok.

Wut?
I said their breast are sign of maturity ... in what world is that shaming? O_o

Tbh I suspect the reason for no short races boils down to one word - mocap. It's much more easy and cheap when you're doing a 1:1 translation from mocap to computer. With the short races with the different body structures each step would have to be worked on.

The culture war in the US.

And also as crashdaddy said technical aspects like motion capture. And probably also budget reasons and small races not being popular enough to justify the expense.

That is still the same argument.
As long as Larian allow our Halflings/Gnomes to have sex, they have to mocap the scene.

I highly doubt anyone would mind if shorter race would allways be on top no matter who is PC.
So you just swap models an voila!

In the Honour of Thieves DnD movie the Barbarian ladies had a thing for Gnomes ...