if you play, say a Gnome, you would get +2 or two +1 to put into any ability score of your choice, and then on top of that you would get an additional racial from your subrace? Then you get Point buy on top of that? is the subrace racial increase exempt from the +2/+1 +1?
As far as I could tell, the +2/+1 replaces any racial attribute bonuses. In many cases, it's actually the same as the racial attribute bonuses by default, though the user seems to be able to reassign them.
So my stoutheart halfling ranger, for example, defaulted to +2 Dex, +1 Con as normal, but I could change the +1 Con to +1 Wis instead. I could have changed the +2 Dex to +2 Cha or something too, if I'd wished. I assume I couldn't have put them both on the same attribute to get a +3 but didn't actually check that.
Of course, not all races/subraces get a +2/+1 by default but what it looks like Larian have done is change their attributes to match this pattern but then give some additional benefit in proficiencies to balance in the event that this makes the race weaker than as per PHB, and some folk have gone through the PFH screenshots and gathered a bit more info about that. I'm afraid I didn't have time to do more than note the basics.
Are the special racial feats still in? For example the Lucky feat for your halfling or fire resistance for tieflings, special weapon specs for dwarves, gith, elfs etc.?
Yes. You can tell by looking at the character creation shots in the video. Pause button is recommended.
Just watched the Woolfart vid and everything is 'really cool' as per usual. His comments about the number and variety of magical items got my attention and he reminded me that the maps have been overhauled to be more functional.
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Are the special racial feats still in? For example the Lucky feat for your halfling or fire resistance for tieflings, special weapon specs for dwarves, gith, elfs etc.?
I didn't check everything, but yes there are definitely still racial abilities/feats. I'm assuming (though it is an assumption) that if the race was one which has a +2/+1 to attributes, everything will be the same except that the attribute bonuses are updateable, but that there are tweaks to races who have/had different attribute bonuses like humans and half elves to try to balance them. Possibly unsuccessfully, based on the chat here
"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"
that makes human worst race, as they dont get anything on top. and i guess makes half orc and wood elf best ones for combat and magic/roguish class respectively. btw, does anyone heard about stat / class customization options for origins?
Humans get poleweapon proficiency apparently, could be really usefull for some clerics and druids, as well as other casters.
Hello, Red Queen, and thank you for your for sharing what you saw. I have really small question. Was the scene at the gates of the Grove with Aradine and Co changed? Just "yes/no" will be sufficient answer, but details if it was changed would be cool to.
As far as I could tell, the +2/+1 replaces any racial attribute bonuses. In many cases, it's actually the same as the racial attribute bonuses by default, though the user seems to be able to reassign them.
So my stoutheart halfling ranger, for example, defaulted to +2 Dex, +1 Con as normal, but I could change the +1 Con to +1 Wis instead. I could have changed the +2 Dex to +2 Cha or something too, if I'd wished. I assume I couldn't have put them both on the same attribute to get a +3 but didn't actually check that.
That's fantastic, thank you for the in depth explanation. I love it. This opens up all sorts of doors - I will communicate this to my Guild now.
I wanted to hold off until i fully understood what we were getting. Do you have any additional info on any additional racials implemented? I assume all the standard ones are still there? darkvision, armor proficiency etc?
I assume most stuff remains the same, especially for races that already had +2/+1 attribute bonuses, but didn't have time to note more. Some folk have posted on these forums additional info they've managed to glean from careful watching of the PFH section where each race was flipped through.
Wolfheart mentions the customisable attribute bonuses in his vid, but I don't think he goes into any more detail either.
It might be worth starting a thread specifically on what we have discovered on this, if anyone is in the mood. I don't have time today, but if noone else collates the info and I happen to find myself at a loose end at some point I might give it a go!
"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"
I have really small question. Was the scene at the gates of the Grove with Aradine and Co changed? Just "yes/no" will be sufficient answer, but details if it was changed would be cool to.
It looked pretty much the same, except that Wyll's entrance had been jazzed up with some close up camera work and fancy swordplay. (Here's hoping he'll actually have the build to back up his apparent rapier-wielding skills in the full release )
"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"
I just watched Wolfheart's video. Additional standouts for me were shield spell in the game and works exactly like 5e. Dark Urge Oath of Vengeance sorcadin for playthrough 2 confirmed! Plus you can no longer just circle round the back of an enemy and hide as it won't let you hide in an enemy's zone of threat. Also very cool. Also panther form for druid. I'm going to be honest, he's really hyped it up even more for me.
I just watched Wolfheart's video. Additional standouts for me were shield spell in the game and works exactly like 5e. Dark Urge Oath of Vengeance sorcadin for playthrough 2 confirmed! Plus you can no longer just circle round the back of an enemy and hide as it won't let you hide in an enemy's zone of threat. Also very cool. Also panther form for druid. I'm going to be honest, he's really hyped it up even more for me.
Looks like an amazing update for MAPS!! According to Wolf, very much D&D flavor. Nice!
It just reminded me of the bowl of goat's milk that old Winthrop used to put outside his door every evening for the dust demons. He said the dust demons could never resist goat's milk, and that they would always drink themselves into a stupor and then be too tired to enter his room..
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