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Don't forget Sting.

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Build based solely on what is in EA or confirmed for release right now if it had multi-classing. The focus here would be on conversation, observation, and thief skills and support capabilities. Note that there are better choices for the order and selection of skills if they fix the Lore bard for full release.

Level 1
Lightfoot Halfling
Rogue 1
Entertainer
Str 8
Dex 16
Con 11
Int 12
Wis 12
Cha 16

Skills:
Race - Stealth
Background - Acrobatics and Performance
Class: Deception, Insight (expertise), Perception (expertise), Persuasion

Level 2
Bard 1
Skill: Investigation
Spells:
Cantrips: Friends and Minor Illusion
Lvl 1 spells: Healing Word, Heroism, Sleep, Dissonant Whispers (the most in character damage spell if you really need it)

Level 3
Bard 2
Spells: Charm if you want to go all in on the talking, Thunderwave if you feel like doing some damage while knocking opponents away from you.

Level 4
Lore Bard 3
New skills: Arcana, Slight of Hand (expertise), Intimidation (and add expertise to whichever talking skill you like most)
Spells: Invisibility, and swap Heroism for Enhance Ability

Level 5
Lore bard 4
Feat: Resilient - Constitution (this will help you survive better
Spells: Hold Person (non-damage spell that keeps a bad guy from attacking)

Level 6
Rogue 2
nothing to pick here

Level 7
Arcane Trickster Rogue 3
Cantrips: Mage Hand, and at this point you are out of decent non-damage cantrip choices. I would go with Shocking Grasp since it helps you run away from badguys and Chill Touch to stop them from healing. They have the best 'support' type secondary abilities
Spells: Color Spray, Disguise Self, Find Familiar (so you can have a little bird friend like the one who guided them to the keyhole in the mountain)

Level 8
Rogue 4
Charisma +2 to make your talking skills better

After that, I would go back to bard to get more and higher level spells.

I hope this helps smile


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Fantastic job!

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Quick note on the build, switching to bard at 8th level instead of rogue will get you better spells in the long run, so that is a choice you'll have to make.


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Originally Posted by benbaxter
Quick note on the build, switching to bard at 8th level instead of rogue will get you better spells in the long run, so that is a choice you'll have to make.
Wow, thank you so so much! Your help means a lot, I really appreciate it! 🙏

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Originally Posted by BilboBiggins
Originally Posted by benbaxter
Quick note on the build, switching to bard at 8th level instead of rogue will get you better spells in the long run, so that is a choice you'll have to make.
Wow, thank you so so much! Your help means a lot, I really appreciate it! 🙏

I'm glad I could help smile


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I might be wrong here (kinda new to DnD myself), but what do people think of a College of Swords sneaky Bard, using the Dueling fighting style (Sting)?

You can support your group without fully committing murder, you have the option to defend yourself as a Sword, and I'm guessing BilboBiggins could then add stealthy skills to round up his character? Maybe even dip into Rogue?

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