Originally Posted by JandK
Originally Posted by Darth_Trethon
Originally Posted by mrfuji3
Now, this doesn't actually make sense, because Pact of the Blade Warlocks could always get Extra Attack through the Eldritch Invocation: Thirsting Blade. Additionally, they don't mention anything about using your Charisma modifier, which is *the* benefit of being a Hexblade...
There is no way this is real. Absolutely no way. It's a dead pact without the extra attacks and using the charisma modifier.

I'm having trouble understanding.

What is being said about Pact of the Blade?

That it's going to use CHA modifier for attack?

That it's going to give extra attacks?

Or both?

I apologize. I'm just having trouble understanding.
When you attack with a weapon the attack roll is your D20 roll plus proficiency bonus plus strength modifier unless you have a patron like The Hexblade that allows you to use your charisma modifier instead of strength. Warlocks don't use strength so if your warlock strength modifier is higher than 0 you probably set up your character wrong. At levels 1-4 your proficiency modifier is +2, then +3 at levels 4-8 and finally caps at +4 at levels 8-12. So when first starting the game you will have to roll at least a 10 on the dice for a total roll of 12 if the enemies have a DC(armor) of 12. Late game that same dice roll will be 14 and tough enemies will have DC18 or higher. So basically good luck hitting anything...late game you'll have something like a 20-30% chance to land a hit with your pact weapon. And you can't have the Thirsting Blade eldritch invocation that would give you extra attacks either.