Originally Posted by Alodar
Originally Posted by Nightmarian
Would it really be crazy for them to mix in some of the core hexblade features like Hex Warrior into Pact of the Blade?

Wizards of the Coast is releasing an updated version of the Player's Handbook in 2024.
In their most recent playtest the Pact of the Blade Warlock was overhauled.
Many of the features of Hexblade were rolled right in to pact of the blade.
Much like the special weapon attacks that were introduced in EA, the changes to Pact of the Blade are likely based off Wizard's of the Coast playtest material.

Sounds like the right move to me. Many people found the Hexblade subclass weird from a thematic and flavor viewpoint and if you take Pact of the Blade these days you're very often going Hexblade anyway. This might open some more interesting options too by getting the good stuff of Hexblade and mixing it with other patrons.


Originally Posted by JandK
Originally Posted by Siege664
Originally Posted by Alodar
Originally Posted by Nightmarian
Would it really be crazy for them to mix in some of the core hexblade features like Hex Warrior into Pact of the Blade?

Wizards of the Coast is releasing an updated version of the Player's Handbook in 2024.
In their most recent playtest the Pact of the Blade Warlock was overhauled.
Many of the features of Hexblade were rolled right in to pact of the blade.
Much like the special weapon attacks that were introduced in EA, the changes to Pact of the Blade are likely based off Wizard's of the Coast playtest material.

Yeah, I actually suggested they at least fold the Hex Warrior feature from Hexblade (+CHA mod) to the blade pact in a separate thread. I personally think it makes a bit more sense to me than having the whole subclass, and generally agree with that change from WOTC.

I don't know anything about 5e, but as a player of bg3, I'd be thrilled it I could trade the ability to summon an imp for:

1. Using my CHA for attack and damage with melee weapon, and
2. Getting an extra attack.

Sign me up. Because that sounds amazing.

Are you saying there should be more than that?

Well, Hex Warrior by itself does that, the extra attack comes later. It also gives you proficiency with shields, medium armor, and martial weapons, which is also a pretty big deal.