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What about a multiclassed hexblade with ACCELERATED spell gain? How would you feel about it?

That's a great point.

In all of this, my two least favorite portions of the news are:
-Expedited/Buffed Multiclassing (I want multiclassing to be easy. I don't want it to be uniformly better than single-classing in every respect. I want build tradeoffs).
-Altering starting class for story companions. Or altering anything about companions other than some stats and minor cosmetics.

Not pointless...that is the entire point. If you want to intentionally destroy the origin characters then you should be left with mercenaries.

Each and every origin character has a story centered on who they are before you meet them. Shadowheart is a cleric of Shar and you meet her while she's on a mission for Shar...if you change her then her story makes no sense so you should lose that. Lae'zel is a faithful Githyanki fighter and her story has everything to do with that...if you change that you should lose the story full stop.

Each and EVERY origin character has a very specific story centered on who they are before you meet them. If you don't like that, then fine, you can have mercenaries, but absolutely never a character that doesn't make sense running through their stories.

If Larian is taking feedback, I believe these are fairly uncontroversial points:

1. Reconsider the power up to multiclass
2. Restrict how often each character can be reset (one way or another. E.g.: at least one class locks at level x. Stats can be reset every x hours. Each companion x times).

Thanks for the reply

How would a normal respec not be enough to address this, exactly?


And frankly I'm not even a fan of basic respec in general. I just understand its convenience.
But frankly this is a ideological war at this point.

The ill conceived notion that anything that is "convenient" also makes a game better is a bane of modern game design, in general.
That's why so many games in the end despise investing more and more in presentation and production value turn out to be so toothless and insipid.

3. Lock story companions' starting class.

AND FIX THE FORUM WEBSITE

Its watered down for convenience and accessibility. The bane of any good game. Stick to the D&D rules. The beta was sooo long, why change the rules now, makes no sense.

Guys I am starting to believe that all this stuff coming out of nonsense foreign articles and unknown publications is literally made up nonsense. I just saw someone else post more nonsense articles talking about pact of the blade warlocks being confirmed in BG3 when Larian themselves literally posted the full list of classes and subclasses in the game less than two weeks ago and pact of the blade warlock was NOT on there. For now let's calm down and wait for official word from Larian or the release of the game because a lot of this might just literally made up trash.

BUT HOW WILL I BE OUTRAGED???
YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD
YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO

LOL. Yes, that would be worse; but hexblade isn't available in BG3.

How much you want to be we get a Feat every 4 character levels instead of every 4 class levels? :p

See this thread (or the interview it's about), where it's claimed that Pact of the Blade will be boosted in power to be closer to hexblade.

I don't have your optimism. I would fully expect the zoomer generation of gamers to brute-force through a proper tutorial without understanding it and never open a manual ever. XD

Pact Boon is a base Warlock class feature, not a sub-class.

100% agree with OP that every one of the items they mentioned is a fucking stupid idea. (can I say that here?). But it doesn't detract from my enjoyment one bit. In the PfH when Swen mentioned respecing, and don't recall if he said it would be free or if he said it in a way that makes me think it would be free, my gut was "why would you do that?"

But then he answered the question. It's an enormous game, and he'd rather not have people give up on it if their choices are give up, start again after maybe dozens of hours, or continue playing as something that's not fun for them.

The other changes are harder to justify for sure, but yeah, as others have noted, they all float around this idea of wooing folks less familiar with D&D and/or these kinds of games in general.

Would it be cool if those things were locked behind a harder difficulty mode? Yeah, 100%. Does it detract from enjoyment that they're not, not in the slightest.

If there are achievements eg "did such and such without respecing or multiclassing," that would be cool, but I'm not fussed in the slightest.

Really, if this is the stuff that's grinding your gears, I'm jealous of you. I've got stuff in my life that is way way way out of the normal for stuff that sucks, so a poor design decision in a fun game I can just ignore? Okay.

I really hope the multi-classing thing turns out not to be true. There MUST be restrictions and opportunity costs to multi-classing. Otherwise, everyone would do it. There would be no upside to single-classing. And in the end everyone would end up with very similar character builds. This is already enough of an issue in 5e, with everyone taking dips in hexbalde or fighter, they really shouldn't make it worse by removing the downside of multi-classing.

Pact of the Blade is a worthless pact without The Hexblade subclass/patron which is not in BG3. Long story short is without The Hexblade patron your pact weapon depends on your strength modifier and doesn't get extra attacks...so you might as well try to beat your enemies with a wooden stick for the difference it makes.

Thanks for sharing that

For clarity subclass pacts and pact boons are different. Pact boons aren't selected until level 3, and the better invocations, like extra attack, for Pact of the Blade (the boon) aren't selectable until level 5 or later and eat up rare resources. You only have 3 invocations by level 5.

If you need to have Warlock 5 Paladin 6 in order to get the Cha benefits, things may feel a little more balanced. Still not perfect, but far more balanced than just taking a one level dip.