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Right, fair warning that I've pretty much exhausted my notes from the event already, excepting just a few more spoilery things I decided not to share, so chances are the answers to further questions is likely to be "I don't know".

It can't hurt to ask though, as your question might shake a memory loose!

Regarding Daisy changes, just so we don't derail this thread, I'd suggest taking the chat to the one Ragnarok made about Daisy. Feel free to PM me if there's any post of yours here that you'd like me to move there,

For science.

I think I mentioned earlier in this thread (which has got really long, so if so I don't blame you for not spotting it ) that I saw some definite evidence that this has been reworked at least to some extent. Gale, for example, told me about his little problem in a chat as we were wandering around the world, rather than in a camp convo.

But it did seem a little buggy in the build I played. I imagine tying the conversations to resting was at least partly to impose some pacing on this content, and without it Gale apparently came to trust me in about half a day (we hadn't even camped together) and Shadowheart wanted to share some additional info on something that I don't think had even happed yet. So good news and bad news.

Personally I'm taking it as good, as what I saw clearly proves Larian have listened and reworked the way conversations are linked to camping, and I'm sure remaining issues can be ironed out.

I didn't see a way of changing character portrait background, which doesn't prove anything definite given that it's clear there's SO MUCH I missed.

I thought character portraits were looking pretty good in the build I played, including that for my own PC, though I can't recall what colour background it had!

I'll have to check them out! Feel free to post links here to any commentary you think other folk here might be interested in.

And yes, everyone I spoke to had a blast with the game, seemingly whether they'd already played in early access or not, and so hopefully (for all of us who are desperate for the game to do well so Larian will keep working on it) BG3 will get some good additional hype as a result.

I didn't have time to do more than check the basics of this. No difference jumped out at me (other than the additional option to ungroup a summon that I mentioned), but I wouldn't swear there weren't some more hidden changes. I didn't try using hotkeys for party members, and I agree it would be helpful if the mapping were more reliable!


I did quickly play around with the camera, but if there's a way to tilt it I didn't find it. I didn't notice any obvious change to the zoom levels. On the plus side, I didn't notice any problems with the camera getting messed up with verticality either, but that's caveated by the fact I wasn't in any of the locations that gave it the worst of the difficulty during EA.


It definitely looks as though there have been some changes to Stealth, including making Hide an action (presumably except for a Rogue cunning action, but my ranger/rogue never managed to get her second level in rogue) and, as I didn't notice but Wolfheart did, restricting hiding in enemy's threat zones, as well as it now appearing much more difficult (or even maybe impossible) to attack from stealth without initiative being rolled.

Specifically on ambush, no initiative doesn't seem to be rolled for the whole party, only the attacker. At least if the enemies can't see the rest of our party: presumably if they could then they'd be pulled into battle too. And possibly even if they're hidden but close to the attacker, though for what I was testing I had the other party members hanging back so can't confirm that.

Perhaps it'll be helpful just to explain what I did try, so it's clear how much (and indeed how little!) I could try out.

I was testing this in the fight with goblins in the underground passage beneath the druid grove, and was trying to see if I could replicate the problem in EA with sniping enemies from a distance without initiative being rolled, so I had all my party in stealth and brought them up one by one, starting with my PC. She fired an arrow at a goblin from stealth, and initiative was rolled. As far as I could see, there was no stealth check immediately rolled (as happened in EA) and she wasn't in stealth after the attack. No surprise round was called.

I then brought up each party member in turn, attacking from range in stealth from outside the enemies' vision cones. Each time a party member attacked, initiative was immediately rolled and they were pulled into the battle order, again I didn't notice stealth being rolled and they popped out of stealth on their attack. I am almost certain (though I didn't actually write this down) that the attack they made from stealth counted as their action for that first round so they only had their bonus actions to use on their turn, but of course they did have the advantage of getting off their attacks at the start regardless of their initiative roll.

I'd have loved to play around further with this, but that was actually right at the end of my time with the game. But based only on what I was able to check, I can only say that it looks as though Stealth and Ambush will be much less cheese-able (and therefore more satisfying in my book) but not necessarily perfect.


I didn't have chance to check these.


Hopefully my answer just above to yellowsapphire88 has covered this one, but feel free to shout if you have any follow up questions. (With the caveat that the answer will probably be that I don't know )

I'm afraid I don't know the answers to either of these.

I noticed some chat about Wolfheart in the next few posts I read (I'm going through in order) and will just say that I've really enjoyed those of his vids I've watched, and while he's clearly a fan of the game (why would he spend so much of his life on it otherwise?!) that strikes me as completely genuine and I cannot imagine for a moment that he'd try to silence criticism unfairly.

Also, I watched his vid and didn't spot any inaccuracies or exaggerations. He clearly noticed some stuff I didn't (particularly as he tried out a dragonborn monk Dark Urge, so has more insight there), but given that everything he did say that I was able to confirm was accurate I have no reason to doubt the stuff I'm not

I did pop a post in this thread here highlighting the key things I picked up from his vid that hadn't registered with me so I'd not mentioned.

Sorry, I didn't try a dragonborn. Blackheifer posted here a link to a vid of someone who it looks like some time playing a Dark Urge dragonborn that might give some more clues as to how they'll work. I'm not watching that one, though, so I can't be sure. There's no way I can avoid spoilers entirely moderating here, but I'm trying to avoid as much story stuff from beyond the EA cutoff as I can!

For you it may be cliche but not to me. To me the idea of them just offering to be a protector is dull and boring

This perhaps got lost ...


If there's more Daisy chat here I might just shift it to that other thread anyway.

They didn't show what i really wanted to see , and that is stat rolling i heard its just point buying 😕

The dead planets are exactly one of the things that makes Starfield awesome, because it is realistic and thereby enhances my immersion. Larian could learn from that.

Starfield is awesome and so much better than BG3. The only problem for me right now is that my current gaming machine can't run Starfield. But I am looking into buying a new, expensive machine just so I can play it.

I have a feeling Starfield will be the disappointment of the year. Never trust Todd.

Bethesda games are awesome after a patch or dozen and 200 or 300 mods after.

Now you are just trolling yourself. Bethesda once again sells you a new Skyrim, this time with a cosmic flavor and you tell me it's already better? Let me know how immersive all the bugs will be.

I will be passing on Starfield for now. I will be too busy playing BG3! Also not a fan of lots of empty planets.

Nah. BG3 has that distinction of being the disappointment of the decade.

Have you actually played the game yet? I don't mean the full game; it's not out. I mean, have you actually played early access?

We've been over this many times in the past already. No, I have not played the game in EA. I don't play ANY games in EA, and I especially am not going to give a sale to a game with which I am huge problems. But as an academic I know well how to do research on something.

They why are you commenting on stuff like Shadowheart's alignments?