Originally Posted by Ixal
And another one who thinks having 5% less success chance makes a character bad and unplayable and is willing to sacrifice immersion and racial distinctions because they can't stop minmaxing...

It does, and I'll tell you more, a 15% more is literally "legendary". Only the greatest artefacts in the multiverse of 5e gives you a 15% more, this should help you put that 5% in perspective.

I'm a player that in my last pathfinder game played a black handed oracle (my favourite class) half orc. I literally couldn't use my hands, if not for a shield strapped on my arm. But you can be sure I had my 18 CAR as an oracle. Is that min maxing? Because at this point playing anything above 8 is minmaxing.

16-17 is the sweet spot in which a character is able to do what he do the most in 5e. If you want to gimp yourself you are free to do so but my half orc druid and my wood elf barbarian should be able to do what they do without sucking.

Last edited by Sansang2; 12/07/23 08:06 AM.

... because it's fun!