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If you meet a field labororer in the forgotten realms its probably a human with a pitch fork. A town guard? A human with a spear

Also many traditionally human gods like Chauntea have a strong relation to polerms and the whole evil necromancer with a scythe trope is mostly a human thing too.

If you meet a field labororer in the forgotten realms its probably a human with a pitch fork. A town guard? A human with a spear

Also many traditionally human gods like Chauntea have a strong relation to polerms and the whole evil necromancer with a scythe trope is mostly a human thing too.

How about reading your own link? Cant't be bothered? They list exactly 2 racial weapons, dwarven thrower and the sentient moonblades. Those things are incredibly rare and high level, outside of what BG3 offers.


Items, including racial ones like gnomish hook hammers and others like it, were never race locked, just exotic for others. The only magic items limited to a race were very rare high level ones.

But anyway I will mod it and remove free respecs and be done with Larian shenanigans on this regard. If you are happy with this, cheers mate.

Scythe's aren't polearms. That's the one proficiency you could maybe actually make a case for given the amount of human farmers. But they're not polearms.

I'm all for positivity, but you really seem to be taking this to heart tbh.

Combat in 5e is pretty mathematical and in most cases the proficiency in polearms just don't add much. Even in that build you posted, the best thing was the medium armour. If you're a full caster you're always going to be better off using spells from a safe distance if possible. Pretty standard play for a caster unless you are a cleric with the tools to get in close maybe and the spells to keep yourself in the battle.

But humans tend in Faerun to gather round cities and live on the outskirts if they're farmers etc. They more than any other race really have quite a mixture of backgrounds, so lorewise it's also quite a baffling choice. How come an urchin in the old city of BG ever learned to use a halberd, nevermind EVERY single human?

I agree with the poster that said racial proficiencies are a bit silly. I quite liked Solasta's way of putting them in the background choice, that made sense.

Scythes are polarms War scythe evolved into fauchards

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Pole_arm

Scythe's aren't polearms. That's the one proficiency you could maybe actually make a case for given the amount of human farmers. But they're not polearms.

I'm all for positivity, but you really seem to be taking this to heart tbh.

Combat in 5e is pretty mathematical and in most cases the proficiency in polearms just don't add much. Even in that build you posted, the best thing was the medium armour. If you're a full caster you're always going to be better off using spells from a safe distance if possible. Pretty standard play for a caster unless you are a cleric with the tools to get in close maybe and the spells to keep yourself in the battle.

But humans tend in Faerun to gather round cities and live on the outskirts if they're farmers etc. They more than any other race really have quite a mixture of backgrounds, so lorewise it's also quite a baffling choice. How come an urchin in the old city of BG ever learned to use a halberd, nevermind EVERY single human?

I agree with the poster that said racial proficiencies are a bit silly. I quite liked Solasta's way of putting them in the background choice, that made sense.

Scythes aren't included in the proficiencies listed, nor are they included in the feat polearm master. My point still stands. I'm not even sure the weapon is in the game tbh

I'm giving up too, because I have absolutely no idea why you're so invested here, but your last reply suggested a bit of bad faith, as we're obviously talking about the game and not the ttrpg. An absolutely strange hill to die on but no probs

I'm trying to show you that this is a lorefull rule change if you eree going to give humans a weapon profincy polarms makes the most sense.

There was a Wizard, not so long ago, who was especialy gifted in channeling a weave ... one could say he was making spells, as musician is composing simphony.
As it happens, his admitely non-negligible talent caught the eye of godess of magic herself, and she made him her chosen one ... but the Wizard wanted more ... he fell in love with Godess, ans she, for the time as it was, returned his affection ... or at least so the young Wizard thought.
In time tho, her visits were more and more distant, until one day she visited the Wizard for last time ... Wizard was heartbroken, and dedicated to earn affection of his love once again.
So this Wizard found an ancient book, where old magic was traped ... magic that was primordial piece of his Godess ... "maybe," this foolish Wizard though, "if i manage to return this piece back to her, she will see that im still worthy" ...
But something went wrong.
Oh something went horribly wrong!
This primordial piece was hungry for magic, and it was draining everything around ... the Wizard could have died that day, and he almost did ... but his link to magic was forever damaged.

When Wizard a little later find out that his deed didnt impress Mystra at all ... he got angry ... VERY angry ... and that is when he find out that he had other hidden talents this whole time.

The end. :P

There was an Elf noble ... usualy pretty face good-for-nothing noble ... surely you know hunderts of such kind, all parties, no work, all himself, no worries about anyting.
Until one night, when he was ambushed ... and almost killed.
Mysterious stranger appeared ... offered him eternal life, in exchange for eternal servitude ... our Elf didnt even think about consequences, he didnt care about them for last dozen decades, so why start now? He accepted. And finaly find out what it means to serve ...

Centuries past ... two of them if im not misstaken ...
Lots of time for our Elf to forgot about that Noble ... but he didnt, he still remembered person he was, at least on surface, since he weared it as a mask in public ... but nothing behind it remained intact.
Our Elf was broken, bitter, lost ... forsaken.

But ways of Faith are unpredictable.
Our Elf was kidnapped again ... one could even claim he was rescued, even tho it might be pure accident.

Now free of his cruel master ... our Elf wanted to finaly do all those things he allways wanted, all the hings his master allways did, but forbids him to do them aswell.
He wanted to fight, conquer, destroy and plunder ... but before he managed to meet first person to satisfy his twisted desires ... he realized, that no matter what, he is not his master.
And so he made an Oath ... Oath so sacred one couldnt believe that being so dark can be so noble.

Will he keep it, tho?
Only time will tell.

I think that was Wyll.

It really would not. How polearms are used in combat have very little to do with how farmers use a scythe, which by the by is not by any stretch of anyone's imagination a polearm. And there's no sensible argument that I can think of that being familiar with a scythe somehow teaches you how to use a polearm.

Also keep in mind that a war scythe really isn't a scythe. It is named so because it has a curved blade, like a scythe, and the cutting edge is on the inside of the curve, like a scythe. That's it. You cannot make a reasonable weapon out of a scythe because the blade just isn't made for it. Sure, you could injure people but you'll probably also break the blade or it might get stuck or it might just glance off the first bit of armor it hits.

If humans were to have a basic proficiency, it should probably be basic spears, which I believe is the most common weapon in human history, since it is so simple to make. But even that wouldn't be right, because learning to use a spear properly takes time and effort and investment. It sure isn't something that all people of any society just know how to do.

I still feel like there is a mistake, or more to this. Polearm proficiency is useless. Classes that might make good use from polearms already get the proficiency. Classes that don't get a polearm proficiency aren't improved by having it.

A couple of possibilities:
1) Fextralife misunderstood, and humans can actually choose a weapon proficiency from a list (and the list happened to default to polearm)

2) Fextralife misunderstood, and humans get expertise (double proficiency) in polearms

3) Larian has Homebrewed Polearms (or just Q-staffs) to add finesse to them.

Or there is some other unknown factor that makes this make sense.

My dude polarms evolved directly from farming equipment.

Weapons like the bill were almost 1 for 1 for their agricultural counterpart.

But I'm not sure why you are bringing up the practicality of scythes, we we know they are thing in the forgotten relms reguardless, see Myrkull's nighriders


https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Night_rider?file=Servants_of_Myrkul.jpg

I think what's being ground up against here is that weapon proficiencies tied to race inherently don't make sense in most cases, so arguing lore justifications are going to work.