Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Poll - change origin character class?

This time the topic itself is simple ...
But im sure debate wont ... so lets keep prologue short:

Do you mind option to change your Origin companions Class?

Do you? single choice

No ... im responcible enough and capable of making my choices ... i can give them one level in their original class, and multiclass the rest. (54%, 21 Votes)

Yes ... im unable to controll myslef and desperately need the game to do it for me. Otherwise i could willingly do something about wich i claim i hate it. (26%, 10 Votes)

Chicken! (21%, 8 Votes)

Total Votes: 39 Voting on this poll ends: 0 seconds ago

Yep, totally unbiased poll...

Let me change the option for you.

No, I do not care about a consistent story and the characters whos arcs are tied to the class they have and just want to click things for the lulz.

Yes, I want Larian to focus their effort on making great characters and great stories and the ability to change the very core of them on a whim distracts from that and wastes development time.

I appreciate to be able to change origin classes, but also it's not even remotely important to me.
If it's there, cool, otherwise I wouldn't miss it.

I would still put no. Larian has put all they focus they need into making great characters and great stories. Changing and ignoring them for my own amusement is just an option that nobody is forcing on me.

His poll is biased, your poll is wrong.

I never said it is ...

Thats exactly the point ...
They are not.

What is the NARATIVE difference between Astarion 12 Paladin ...
And Astarion 1 Rogue 11 Paladin? xD

What part of his story even makes Astarion a Rogue?
And i dont mean common headcannon ... i mean what was said that makes him Rogue?

I got too distracted by the chicken

I would have voted yes, but for other reasons, namely: I don't want to be arsed to pick the correct specifics of an origin character, as I don't want to break their base. And am somewhat lazy.

Not a leading question at all, uh.

Anyway, just to answer the core of the question, despise the hilariously inadequate wording:

I'm absolutely against the possibility to change the starting class for companions.

You mean the vampire spawn who has to do the bidding of his master to lure in victims? What paladin code could he possibly follow?

Gale kinda needs to be a wizard for his story to make sense and Wyll should be a warlock instead of a cleric where he git power from a different source already.

And shadowheart kinda needs to be a cleric of Shar and not the cleric of another deity.

I might be wrong but Wyll Gale kinda need to be a 20th level wizard for his story to make sense, not level 1. As soon as the mcguffin drained his powers he can easily not being able to cast anymore and become a warrior, doesn't?

About shadowheart, how much of her is focused about being a cleric other than just a worshipper. I mean, rogues, darkness lurkers, shadows monks, can be Shar's worshippers pretty well?

The example was respeccing her as cleric of another deity...

And in order for respeccing to make sense Gale, even though he is envisioned as a wizard, would never be allowed to use magic as part of his story or conversation. Thus allowing origin respec would negatively affect the possible story events.

Pointless poll by how its asked

Personally I won't use it... but I'm also someone who actually appreciates consistency in NPCs. To me their race, gender, background, starting class, sexuality, character, morals,... are something that should be defined to have a fully developed character when you meet them. Like everybody they can then take a different path and be influenced to some extent as people do based on experience and companions.

...at the same time its a game and people want everything to bend to their vision because the best stories always have to pander shamelessly to their audience, right? Right!...


Honestly, its such a small thing in this case. Basically just removing the need for a mod for those who want to test something out. I'm also one of those DMs/players that sees classes as a set of mechanics that can be flavored as you want as long as it follows the rules. The whole reason for their existence is to have balanced options, but if you want to play a preacher on my table that has no divine spells, its no issue. If you want to follow a fiendish patron, but not use the warlock class mechanics - what's the problem? You won't be casting eldritch blasts, but can still be talking to your devil/demon. D&D 5e rules don't even really have a set solution if you ignore your patron as warlock or lose your belief in your deity as cleric just suggestions for the DM.

If in BG3 players break the backstory of the origin companions by changing the class and the whole narrative becomes wonky and feels off - congratulations! You did it to yourself!

Sure, there are things that have more sense than others, but a few does make sense and keep the character within his lore. Poe2 made a nice job out of this.

As it is now, this thread is of absolutely no value, not even as a chill time-waster for arguing between users.


It could MAYBE interesting to trash this crappy poll entirely and try again

- without childish leading questions in the poll options...

- ...and without making the appalling newbie mistake of including a pointless joke option as extra, that cannibalizes a sizable percentage of votes.

lots of valid points.

And to stress the point of the poor wording, the problem is not even just the bias in how the options are formulated.
There's also the fact that they don't even clarify what people are exactly voting for.

"A few make sense" is not good enough considering the many limitations added by allowing origin respecs.

Another one, everyone is talking about the bear scene. What if you respecced Halsin into a rogue?

Tuco said it all for me.
As to what I THINK the poll is about - IMO Origin Classes should be set in stone.
No likey, no play.

You’re not going to respec Halsin into a rogue. Why do you care if somebody else does?

I’m going to respec Minsc into a wizard in at least one play through. Nobody has any reason to upset by this. Everybody has the option to not do it if they don’t like it, and there is no reason they would need to.

What limitations?

I know nothing about Halsin, as I said some make more sense than others. If on my 8th playtrough I want to respec him as a barbarian just to have a new experience, what's the problem?

Is fire/acid still required to take down trolls in 5th edition or is moderator power sufficient?