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I know it's too late for suggestions, but still. We have 4 classes that use charisma as their primary mental attribute. The same number of classes use wisdom. At the same time, there is only one class that uses intelligence. In the tablelotp, we have an artificer, but he will not be in the game. In this regard, I propose to consider an option to make intelligence the main characteristic for one of the warlock subclasses - great old one. This fits in well with the game's lore and looks like a good compromise. In the main competitor of DnD, such options are common practice. For example, a pure kineticist has a main characteristic of constitution. However, he also has subclasses with the main characteristics Wisdom, Intelligence, and Charisma.

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This is one of the most requested features in 5e in general. Luckily in 5.5e (not BG3) they are planning to make the warlock work with any mental stat.

Now that I think about it, we saw today some screen of the the blade pact the description talks about "your spellcasting stat", not "CHA". It might be just wording though.

Anyways, Eldritch knight and Arcane Trickster, subclasses of fighter and rogue, are INT caster's too.


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Originally Posted by Sansang2
This is one of the most requested features in 5e in general. Luckily in 5.5e (not BG3) they are planning to make the warlock work with any mental stat.

Now that I think about it, we saw today some screen of the the blade pact the description talks about "your spellcasting stat", not "CHA". It might be just wording though.

Anyways, Eldritch knight and Arcane Trickster, subclasses of fighter and rogue, are INT caster's too.
Odd to do that with warlock of all classes, given the idea that charisma would be a very useful thing in coaxing an otherworldly being into a pact. If I were picking a class to make work with any stat, it would be sorcerer, which works on the premise of innate ability.


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I guess some warlock can obtain his powers by sugar coating a big daddy/mommy, while others studied the eldritch secrets up to discover a truth, and signed ultra complicated contracts, and at last some can obtains their powers by reaching transcending awareness that makes them in contact with the multiverse.

On the other hand, a sorcerer is always smug and never smart. He casts because he feels like it.


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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
Originally Posted by Sansang2
This is one of the most requested features in 5e in general. Luckily in 5.5e (not BG3) they are planning to make the warlock work with any mental stat.

Now that I think about it, we saw today some screen of the the blade pact the description talks about "your spellcasting stat", not "CHA". It might be just wording though.

Anyways, Eldritch knight and Arcane Trickster, subclasses of fighter and rogue, are INT caster's too.
Odd to do that with warlock of all classes, given the idea that charisma would be a very useful thing in coaxing an otherworldly being into a pact. If I were picking a class to make work with any stat, it would be sorcerer, which works on the premise of innate ability.

In fact, everything is not so clear. The power of the sorcerer is concentrated in himself, so he develops his own personality in order to reveal his own potential. However, the arcane heritage of the sorcerer exists in the pathfinder and its main characteristic is intelligence.

At the same time, the warlock must be smart enough, firstly, to make contact with higher powers, and secondly, not to lose his soul immediately at the time of the conclusion of the contract. The current system allows the warlock to have 8 intellect and 8 wisdom. That is, he even read the contract with difficulty. Of course, this is not so important if the higher power needs more than just the soul.

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Keep in mind that Charisma isn't just "I talk real nice", it is the force of personality. It includes the belief in oneself despite any other intrinsic value or rational reasoning. Part of that is a form of hubris which is exactly the attribute needed to make a deal with a devil or trust yourself to handle the powers of the weave without bothering to study.


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