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I like the Icewind Dale setting, but, and I’ve said this before, Planescape! That would perfectly match Larian’s sensibility and design philosophy.

This. Unfortunately the Planescape setting is utterly dead but letting Larian have a go at it has the potential to be brilliant. They can do things as dark as they like and still have all the room in the world for wacky fun. The only real problem, aside from getting permission from WOTC, is creating a protagonist that doesn't feel like a letdown after TNO and thematic music that doesn't suffer when compared with the nostalgia factor of PST music. And NPCs that can stand up to Morte and Dakkon.
The planescape setting is one of the old settings WotC very recently revived with much fanfare, so it's not dead, at least not anymore. And since I never cared for the old planescape game and have long considered it--along with its main writer--to be highly overrated, I'd be fine with Larian taking it on. In fact, given my complete lack of expectations for that franchise, I'd even be free to enjoy Larian's game for what it is, whatever that may be.

Btw, the story is that Beamdog was working on a Ps:T sequel a few years ago before WotC canceled that project. Certainly dodged a bullet there as Beamdog totally sucks.

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I think Larian could do well a Paper Mario game - all the pushing and jumping and absolute ridiculousness would fit right in :P

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I think Larian could do well a Paper Mario game - all the pushing and jumping and absolute ridiculousness would fit right in :P
Honestly I hope they stick to making deep and complex RPGs but BG3 is such a huge and enormous step up from the Divinity Original Sin games that I am not sure going back is a possibility. BG3 doesn't have all the perfect answers to making a D&D videogame but it's definitely close to getting there. I hope Larian stick to making D&D 5e games going forward.

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Originally Posted by kanisatha
Originally Posted by ArvGuy
Originally Posted by Warlocke
I like the Icewind Dale setting, but, and I’ve said this before, Planescape! That would perfectly match Larian’s sensibility and design philosophy.

This. Unfortunately the Planescape setting is utterly dead but letting Larian have a go at it has the potential to be brilliant. They can do things as dark as they like and still have all the room in the world for wacky fun. The only real problem, aside from getting permission from WOTC, is creating a protagonist that doesn't feel like a letdown after TNO and thematic music that doesn't suffer when compared with the nostalgia factor of PST music. And NPCs that can stand up to Morte and Dakkon.
The planescape setting is one of the old settings WotC very recently revived with much fanfare, so it's not dead, at least not anymore. And since I never cared for the old planescape game and have long considered it--along with its main writer--to be highly overrated, I'd be fine with Larian taking it on. In fact, given my complete lack of expectations for that franchise, I'd even be free to enjoy Larian's game for what it is, whatever that may be.

Btw, the story is that Beamdog was working on a Ps:T sequel a few years ago before WotC canceled that project. Certainly dodged a bullet there as Beamdog totally sucks.
I agree about Beamdog but what the heck, PST overrated? Dude??! DUUUDE??!

That said, I was not aware that WOTC resurrected Planescape. That's good. Now we just need something actually good to happen to it. Though I accept that we massively disagree on what "good" means.

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Originally Posted by ArvGuy
Originally Posted by Warlocke
I like the Icewind Dale setting, but, and I’ve said this before, Planescape! That would perfectly match Larian’s sensibility and design philosophy.

This. Unfortunately the Planescape setting is utterly dead but letting Larian have a go at it has the potential to be brilliant. They can do things as dark as they like and still have all the room in the world for wacky fun. The only real problem, aside from getting permission from WOTC, is creating a protagonist that doesn't feel like a letdown after TNO and thematic music that doesn't suffer when compared with the nostalgia factor of PST music. And NPCs that can stand up to Morte and Dakkon.

I think the setting have been largely forgotten by WotC isn’t too big a deal. Larian have said that WotC gave them free reign to do what they wanted, and if they see $$$ signs then they’d be on board.

TNO would be a difficult protagonist to follow, that’s for sure. I think they might need to drop Origin companions and just focus on one dense, narratively complex origin that is flexible enough to still allow multiplayer. That’s a big task.

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I forgot, new Planescape book in October! 9 Hells yeah!

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Forgotten Realms is great and all, but what about:
-Ravenloft
-Eberron
-Spelljammer
-Planescape


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IWD games have this feeling of constantly being threatened, urged to move forward, breaking ahead against overwhelming odds with a backdrop of beautiful scenery. Icewind Dale games had no chill 😂

But Larian likes us to stay awhile and explore. To hang around, look about the nooks and crannies of a big map, in no hurry whatsoever. Completely different design philosophy.

Ofc I do want Larian to make more DnD games, and l’ll be happy with IWD3, but it will be even farther away from the “source material”, than BG3 is from BG2.

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Originally Posted by ArvGuy
Originally Posted by kanisatha
Originally Posted by ArvGuy
Originally Posted by Warlocke
I like the Icewind Dale setting, but, and I’ve said this before, Planescape! That would perfectly match Larian’s sensibility and design philosophy.

This. Unfortunately the Planescape setting is utterly dead but letting Larian have a go at it has the potential to be brilliant. They can do things as dark as they like and still have all the room in the world for wacky fun. The only real problem, aside from getting permission from WOTC, is creating a protagonist that doesn't feel like a letdown after TNO and thematic music that doesn't suffer when compared with the nostalgia factor of PST music. And NPCs that can stand up to Morte and Dakkon.
The planescape setting is one of the old settings WotC very recently revived with much fanfare, so it's not dead, at least not anymore. And since I never cared for the old planescape game and have long considered it--along with its main writer--to be highly overrated, I'd be fine with Larian taking it on. In fact, given my complete lack of expectations for that franchise, I'd even be free to enjoy Larian's game for what it is, whatever that may be.

Btw, the story is that Beamdog was working on a Ps:T sequel a few years ago before WotC canceled that project. Certainly dodged a bullet there as Beamdog totally sucks.
I agree about Beamdog but what the heck, PST overrated? Dude??! DUUUDE??!

That said, I was not aware that WOTC resurrected Planescape. That's good. Now we just need something actually good to happen to it. Though I accept that we massively disagree on what "good" means.
SORRY! smile

I just can't stand Avellone's writing style. I find it very pedantic, verbose, and over-the-top. That cleric charcater he wrote for PoE was just soooooo annoying and boring. I have played Ps:T, and it's not like I hated it or anything. It was just okay. The thing I liked the most about it was that it had such a minimum of combat.

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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
Forgotten Realms is great and all, but what about:
-Ravenloft
-Eberron
-Spelljammer
-Planescape
Spelljammer and Dragonlance returned in 2022, and Planescape this year. Ravenloft returned in 2021.

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Originally Posted by kanisatha
SORRY! smile

I just can't stand Avellone's writing style. I find it very pedantic, verbose, and over-the-top. That cleric charcater he wrote for PoE was just soooooo annoying and boring. I have played Ps:T, and it's not like I hated it or anything. It was just okay. The thing I liked the most about it was that it had such a minimum of combat.
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I Am A Huge D&D Fan and Just hope they Keep Putting Out D&D Content. Forgotten Realms is My Favorite setting and its Soooo Huge they Can make a Game anwhere in Ferun ......

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Originally Posted by Warlocke
I like the Icewind Dale setting, but, and I’ve said this before, Planescape! That would perfectly match Larian’s sensibility and design philosophy.
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Planescape would be amazing.


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Originally Posted by kanisatha
SORRY! smile

I just can't stand Avellone's writing style. I find it very pedantic, verbose, and over-the-top. That cleric charcater he wrote for PoE was just soooooo annoying and boring. I have played Ps:T, and it's not like I hated it or anything. It was just okay. The thing I liked the most about it was that it had such a minimum of combat.

Avellone is hit or miss. He has done some incredible world building such as Tyranny and Planescape Torment. Having him come in and just write a character is a misuse of his talent.

Lately he hasn't worked on anything that I have played except for DOS2.


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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
Originally Posted by kanisatha
SORRY! smile

I just can't stand Avellone's writing style. I find it very pedantic, verbose, and over-the-top. That cleric charcater he wrote for PoE was just soooooo annoying and boring. I have played Ps:T, and it's not like I hated it or anything. It was just okay. The thing I liked the most about it was that it had such a minimum of combat.
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Originally Posted by Blackheifer
Originally Posted by kanisatha
SORRY! smile

I just can't stand Avellone's writing style. I find it very pedantic, verbose, and over-the-top. That cleric charcater he wrote for PoE was just soooooo annoying and boring. I have played Ps:T, and it's not like I hated it or anything. It was just okay. The thing I liked the most about it was that it had such a minimum of combat.

Avellone is hit or miss. He has done some incredible world building such as Tyranny and Planescape Torment. Having him come in and just write a character is a misuse of his talent.

Lately he hasn't worked on anything that I have played except for DOS2.

I feel like Tyranny would have been so amazing with a proper budget. And proper marketing. Everybody thought the game forced you to be evil when really you are in a world where evil already won and that’s just a cool narrative starting point.

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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
Originally Posted by kanisatha
SORRY! smile

I just can't stand Avellone's writing style. I find it very pedantic, verbose, and over-the-top. That cleric charcater he wrote for PoE was just soooooo annoying and boring. I have played Ps:T, and it's not like I hated it or anything. It was just okay. The thing I liked the most about it was that it had such a minimum of combat.
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A bit baffling really. Should be right up his alley seeing as it has the plane of Negative Energy.


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Originally Posted by thrudder
I Am A Huge D&D Fan and Just hope they Keep Putting Out D&D Content. Forgotten Realms is My Favorite setting and its Soooo Huge they Can make a Game anwhere in Ferun ......
I can take or leave D&D, but I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the FR setting. It is my all-time favorite gaming setting. That's a huge part of why I'm so very sad (and bitter?) about BG3, because I don't expect another cRPG set in the FR being made (by anyone) anytime soon. And since I'm no spring chicken anymore and my clock is ticking away, I don't think I'll ever get another FR-setting cRPG before I die.

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Originally Posted by kanisatha
Originally Posted by thrudder
I Am A Huge D&D Fan and Just hope they Keep Putting Out D&D Content. Forgotten Realms is My Favorite setting and its Soooo Huge they Can make a Game anwhere in Ferun ......
I can take or leave D&D, but I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the FR setting. It is my all-time favorite gaming setting. That's a huge part of why I'm so very sad (and bitter?) about BG3, because I don't expect another cRPG set in the FR being made (by anyone) anytime soon. And since I'm no spring chicken anymore and my clock is ticking away, I don't think I'll ever get another FR-setting cRPG before I die.
You could you know actually play the game you have built up so much vitriol against

You know give it a chance?

The opposite of love isnt hatred, its apathy, you you would post her daily for 3 years if some part of you didn't want this game. You

Why not give it a shot, what are you trying to prove? The games has already consumed hundreds of hours over your life. May as well play it.

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