Originally Posted by The Red Queen
Originally Posted by SoulfulAzrael
I think the best way to describe it is like this. As a Dark Urge you can automatically kick a squirrel. As a Tav you DO NOT get to automatically pet a squirrel. That is the issue. You do not get ANYTHING with Tav, nothing, zero, null. That's a problem. At least every Origin in Dragon Age Origins had their own thing, there was no blank slate that had no content.

What kinds of things would you be hoping for from Tav, given that they are by design a completely flexible character whose story we can shape, unlike the Dark Urge whose future we can influence but has a past we need to discover and, it sounds, isn't entirely under our control?

Personally, I don't want to give up Tav's flexibility so for me anything Larian provided would need to be optional. I can definitely think of ways to do this, and think I've mentioned that on these forums before, but I'd be interested in what you would suggest?
Just give it something unique that can be only it's own. Like maybe this whole Guardian thing could just be something TAV has (pretty much what I thought would be a thing before more was revealed). No need to give it to Urge because it already has the Gobbo whispering to them. In fact maybe limit certain things some other classes can do to TAV. Maybe make Paladin as a class available only to TAV because if TDU has amnesia then how would they remember making an Oath? And maybe Cleric too because again, amnesia, how can you even know a name of a God you are to worship? And maybe only TAV being able to speak with their patron as a Warlock or maybe as Dark Urge your patron acting differently because of the Gobbo while TAV has different relationship with them as well. Basically give the most options in terms of classes and what you can do to TAV (maybe even making the Tadpole powerups also only a TAV thing because Origin characters by virtue of being already written wouldn't be stupid enough to shove more of those in, maybe aside from Urge, but Gobbo I think wouldn't like that either) while Dark Urge and Origins are more limited in this way due to their personal issues.