Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Give a warning window when picking up Dark Urge.

Coming from reddit, there seems to be some people who find the idea of losing control to Durge's urges unacceptable or simply a "forced choice or lack of it". People will be picking up this Origin expecting Tav+, expecting full control of their character regardless of situation.

So i suggest adding a Warning window pop up, like you had in DOS 2 about playing as Undead, that sometimes Dark Urges will be outside of player's control.

Is that handholding? Absolutely and personally i don't need it, i am ready to go full in with consequences.

But there will be a lot of angry folks on release with pitchforks, mad at Larians for "denying freedom of choice".

Those "angry folk" can go and cry me a river.
If you pick a character named Dark Urge you deserve everything you get. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes ...

The name literally tells the player what the origin is going to be about, DARK URGE. He has an urge to kill. Sometimes you may be able to fight against it, most times you won't because it's an urge that's always there and sooner or later you'll have to give in. If people can't understand that, oh well. They can start over, you don't need a hand holding warning. Use your brain. Personally, I'm going to enjoy this origin for my first playthrough.

According to Fextralife ... they dont.
He said, its allways your choice if you wish to lean towards, or resist them ...

That's false. In one of Fextralife own videos there's a scene with a squirrel where dark urge reacted and there was no control from the player. I'm assuming there will be more cases like this one.

Starting at 4:18

Look, you will NEVER be able to protect stupid people from themselves, so don't try.

Also, you shouldn't be building any game to accommodate the lowest common denominator. It never works out well. Just put some shiny boobs on the box, they will buy it, die 5 times and give up and go away.

Larian will have their money, which will be put to better use. Everyone wins.

Also it's 'losing' control.

Loose - Not tight, or fixed in place.
Lose - Be deprived, or cease to have something.

Are you sure this wasn't a suggestion for you? It's an odd argument to make that somebody makes a choice and them complains that the choice they make is denying them freedom of choice - yet ignoring that they could go back and make a different choice.

I mean it's not like Larian is going to show up and be like "No, you have to continue that playthrough"

Who you calling stupid?!?
>:-(

Angry people with Pitchforks that can't figure out how to read and complaining about nothing.

Really they are more likely to hurt themselves if you let them have pitchforks.

Look, here is what we do, we sell a special edition of the game for these folks that just has an issue of playboy and a fidget spinner inside of it. That should keep them busy.

I did understand, that the squirrel scene or the scene with Alfiras lute will happen, when you lean into the dark thoughts of Durge - the ones, where you decide to explore or resist.

That said, I think, the title Dark Urge should tell the people everything. I don't think a warning is needed.
And If someone selects it and gets creeped out, then they just can start over.

Hm… I do like fidget spinners…

I am not sure why are you questioning me about that, when i clearly said that i am all in with Larian's design choice.

I just don't want people to throw more shade on the game. Call me naive, if you want.

I wish there was clarification on the extent to which Durge is not Tav+ because fextra makes it sound like a custom character with extra story, not unlike Gorion’s Ward, but the footage and community opinion tells me it’s a more on the rails origin.

What's going on over here? I'm seeing a lot of accusations of "stupidity" thrown around. It doesn't seem to be against people here, but that's almost even worse as we don't even have a representative of whatever position it is we're objecting to here to defend their view or at least to put it in their own words. Or perhaps we do, but they daren't stick their head above the parapet!

But so far looks like we're all pretty much agreed both that it should be clear to a player that The Dark Urge might be a a difficult and troubling character to play, and that from what we've seen it is pretty clear up front.

I'm not sure if there's a substantial point of discussion here or if we're now just throwing shade on folks somewhere else. If the latter, we can probably consider this topic dealt with!

We’re creating imaginary men made of straw so we can win arguments against them, but I haven’t come up with a name for them yet. 😎

You really should fix that spelling error in your original post. Why does no one on Reddit know how to spell "lose"? Also why does it get confusing when it's written as a present participle or gerund - like "loosing" instead of the correct "losing".

Sorry, if my comment was off-puting. I guess you can close the suggestion if you consider it irrelevant, but i just wanted to bring up my thoughts as a suggestion to avoid confusion some people might have in the future. Not for myself.

Are you seriously being up-front to me just because i made a spelling mistake? English is nowhere close to my first language, but i still try to communicate. I fixed my mistake.

Don’t take it personally. Blackheifer is like that sometimes. You’re all good man.

Totally fine topic to bring up, and I'm not intending to close it. It just felt a bit overexcited and scathing of people not here to fight for themselves (or possibly just too scared to stand up given all the accusations of stupidity) so my natural sense of justice meant I felt I had to step in and ask for calm on their behalf!

And yes, I'd suggest we don't start trying to correct each others' spelling or grammar as that would quickly spiral out of control. This is a multilingual community chatting informally and we're not going to impose proof-reading standards. I know I'd fall afoul of those immediately as I rarely look back at a post of mine without spotting a typo or poor writing of some kind.

As long as we can understand each other that's fine, and if we can't we can easily ask for clarification.

Thank you. I see it so often it makes me crazy.

I read the post on reddit, and I decided to delete reddit from all my devices and stay away from that site forever if I can.

It's just so disappointing when you see people complain that the warning on toothpicks somehow isn't enough.

Look, having played 2k+ hours of Bg3 I can tell you it's a difficult game to learn. If these folks are having trouble here then they are going to really struggle even in the early game. Additionally, There are going to be choices that you make early on that WILL bite you in the ass many hours later and you just have to accept it or go back and re-play it. THAT is the type of game this is. It requires you think about what you do and how it may affect things but also just accept how it turned out and keep moving.

If this is too much for them - they are going to lose their ever-loving minds when it comes to the stuff they are faced with and the unintended consequences of those choices. You can't help them.