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I would still advise reading a basic 5e combat summary - it's quite different from some older D&D versions (as well as how things like rogue's sneak attack works - not just being behind someone for example). https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Combat#content[NOTE: Larian have changed quite a lot, but the basics will seem much more familiar - that site has descriptions fr most classes and abilities too.] Also attacks of opportunity as Buba mentioned - when you engage an enemy in melee, you need to be careful how you move in combat, else they will whack you.
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Joined: Dec 2020
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Ok, just saw you last [post - not sure what' going on then, if you know the rules.
I (apparently) have karmic dice on, and did not experience your high mischance.
Maybe you are wearing armor you're not proficient in? That will give you disadvantage on pretty much everything.
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Joined: Nov 2022
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Low level DnD is just very swingy, because you have so few hit points. It is very easy to kill and get killed in a single attack, in a way it is not anymore at higher levels.
Low level dnd is always the most deadly (I have seen some statistics on this in the Lost mines of Phandelver, even. Most TPKs are in the first fight lol)
Your stats are fine, I think you really were just unlucky. For the future, I would advice realizing how squishy you are, and acting accordingly.
Like in real life, you will not survive being stabbed. So try to position yourself before the fight, sneak up on enemies and so on, instead of rushing in.
The Intellect Devourers really are scary and I too died to them in my first run. After that, the game gets easier, because you (and the enemy) have more HP relative to the damage enemies (and you) can put out.
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journeyman
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Joined: May 2021
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60% hit chance and many critical misses make me think of Disadvantage. What armor are you wearing?
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Joined: Aug 2015
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Turn off Karmic Dice will be my response to all questions about difficulty. The fact that it is on by default is a MASSIVE disservice to all players.
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Joined: Mar 2021
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I understand advantage and disadvantage rolls. And I'm using the various throwables along with grease+fire spells as well. I also understand AOOs. I'm no expert on 5e, but I've been playing it for years, so I have an above average understanding. (Also, played 1, 2, 3, 3.5, and 4e.)
I'm seeing a ton of Critical Misses. In a single round, maybe 1-2 of my heroes get Critical Misses. I just did the fight at the entrance where Wyll is at and on the first turn 2 of 4 party members had a Critical Miss. Then I had about 3 more Critical Misses during the fight. I was able to not die during that encounter, but it also helped that there were a few NPCs fighting the goblins as well. In the first round, both goblin archers and another all attacked my MC character and he barely survived, but at least I was able to cure wounds as soon as Shadowheart turn.
Looks like I just suck at lv 1 and lv 2 encounters, but I'm eventually getting a little better. It's much less frustrating now than an hour or two ago, since I've now went 2 encounters (freeing Lae'zel and the goblin/gate encounter) without having anyone die on me. You can always use the restoration pad exploit. Just leave one one of your companions next to a restoration pad on the ship and if you get in trouble have them use the pad and it will heal the entire party. Seriously though, I think you would enjoy multiplayer on the Discord - there are always people looking for groups.
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I understand advantage and disadvantage rolls. And I'm using the various throwables along with grease+fire spells as well. I also understand AOOs. I'm no expert on 5e, but I've been playing it for years, so I have an above average understanding. (Also, played 1, 2, 3, 3.5, and 4e.)
I'm seeing a ton of Critical Misses. In a single round, maybe 1-2 of my heroes get Critical Misses. I just did the fight at the entrance where Wyll is at and on the first turn 2 of 4 party members had a Critical Miss. Then I had about 3 more Critical Misses during the fight. I was able to not die during that encounter, but it also helped that there were a few NPCs fighting the goblins as well. In the first round, both goblin archers and another all attacked my MC character and he barely survived, but at least I was able to cure wounds as soon as Shadowheart turn.
Looks like I just suck at lv 1 and lv 2 encounters, but I'm eventually getting a little better. It's much less frustrating now than an hour or two ago, since I've now went 2 encounters (freeing Lae'zel and the goblin/gate encounter) without having anyone die on me. Happy to see you're getting more comfortable with combat. However, I would still take a closer look at those hit percentages if I were you. Even if you are getting crit misses, those chances should generally be higher than 50%. If you are doing something to lower your accuracy, then that will become a big problem with tougher fights later.
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Joined: Jul 2023
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I'm pretty sure that the % the game shows you when you are hovering an attack already takes into account advantage/disadvantage and other variables like low ground.
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Joined: Apr 2023
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I'm pretty sure that the % the game shows you when you are hovering an attack already takes into account advantage/disadvantage and other variables like low ground. It definitely does.
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Joined: Feb 2022
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Yes you are doing something wrong. With The exception of Hag fight and if you fight Githyanki at lvl 4. All The combats in EA are trivially easy.
Underdark ramps it up a bit, But they have Nerfed several of those unfortunately.
Last edited by Odieman; 15/07/23 07:57 PM.
"They say he who smelt it dealt it." Sooo technically... this burnt corpse is your fault officer."
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Joined: Feb 2022
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Trying to keep your squishier characters (which is likely to be all of them to begin with!) out of range of melee big hitters, or what feel like big hitters to a level 1-2 character, very much helps to begin with. The game will try to give you hints, eg with the intellect devourers in the ship to keep at range. Perhaps some good news for you is that with the full release there will be an easier "Story" mode that might be more to your taste, especially to begin with. Or perhaps by the time the game comes out properly you'll have got the knack and be playing on the hardest Tactician mode 
"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"
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Jhe'stil Kith'rak
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Jhe'stil Kith'rak
Joined: Oct 2021
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I’m genuinely confused. The BG3 system is very intuitive, you seem like a knowledgable player, and the encounters are not difficult at all. Something has to be going on in your settings.
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apprentice
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Joined: Apr 2023
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Hey all,
It took me a bit, but I think I figured out my problems. I restarted with a new character and all of the hit %s were 80-100% and it was much easier than before. I had no idea what was going on with that first character. I also realized there's more cheese in combat than I/GM would allow, so I was even able to defeat the cambian and mind flayer in helm on my second character (without save scumming). The one thing I didn't see was the "tutorial" hidden in the journal (j). After reading through those items, it showed me that a bunch of commands are keys on keyboard and not everything is a button (I stopped playing keyboard/mouse PC games a long time ago and prefer console since it's easier to play with hand/wrist/joint issues).
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Joined: Oct 2021
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Hey all,
It took me a bit, but I think I figured out my problems. I restarted with a new character and all of the hit %s were 80-100% and it was much easier than before. I had no idea what was going on with that first character. I also realized there's more cheese in combat than I/GM would allow, so I was even able to defeat the cambian and mind flayer in helm on my second character (without save scumming). The one thing I didn't see was the "tutorial" hidden in the journal (j). After reading through those items, it showed me that a bunch of commands are keys on keyboard and not everything is a button (I stopped playing keyboard/mouse PC games a long time ago and prefer console since it's easier to play with hand/wrist/joint issues). Wait… you beat Zhalk, the extra cambions, and the Mind Flayer instead of just running to the transponder???
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Joined: May 2023
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Wait… you beat Zhalk, the extra cambions, and the Mind Flayer instead of just running to the transponder??? It is quite easy - the lieutenants are trickier.
Last edited by Buba68; 15/07/23 09:46 PM.
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Joined: Mar 2020
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Throw the haste potion at the mind flayer (and/or support him with spells) and he'll do most of the work, then when he's about to kill the last cambion kill them both xD that's how I usually do it.
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Joined: Oct 2021
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Wait… you beat Zhalk, the extra cambions, and the Mind Flayer instead of just running to the transponder??? It is not that difficult ... No but it is time-consuming, and that sword is barely worth it.
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Joined: Mar 2021
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Hey all,
It took me a bit, but I think I figured out my problems. I restarted with a new character and all of the hit %s were 80-100% and it was much easier than before. I had no idea what was going on with that first character. I also realized there's more cheese in combat than I/GM would allow, so I was even able to defeat the cambian and mind flayer in helm on my second character (without save scumming). The one thing I didn't see was the "tutorial" hidden in the journal (j). After reading through those items, it showed me that a bunch of commands are keys on keyboard and not everything is a button (I stopped playing keyboard/mouse PC games a long time ago and prefer console since it's easier to play with hand/wrist/joint issues). Wait… you beat Zhalk, the extra cambions, and the Mind Flayer instead of just running to the transponder??? Pretty sure this is a "long troll" situation. It's a pattern. The initial post is always "help me I don't know what's going on" and yet has a dearth(lack of) of actual useful details which everyone has to ask for. We are at the "I kilt the hard baddy's, did I doos good?" stage of the long troll. Trust me, there is no payoff. Leave it alone.
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apprentice
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Just Zhalk and the Mind Flayer (who was nearly dead anyways by the time Zhalk fell). After getting the greatsword, I just did the transponder to keep going. Didn't think it was worth it to risk fighting the 2 extras. What I did: I split the party into 2 groups with me, Shadowheart, and Lae'zal in group A, and the "Us" in group B. I left "Us" in the room with the restoration pod/thingy in hopes of using it during combat to heal my party, which worked fine. I ended up using it twice total. However, I didn't realize the 2 extra cambians would run into that room and create a second encounter with Us, which basically froze the 2 extra cambians and Us in battle and prevented them from entering the main helm room. I just figured they'd kill Us and continue into room, but Us acted as a blocker to keep them out, which allowed me to (not easily, but not difficult) kill Zhelt. There were lots of misses, average hit was like 30-40%, except with a handful of 65% when they were stunned or I was hidden, etc. Took a while, but when Zhelt fell, the Mind Flayer only had about 13 hp, which I finished him with a couple hits.
And, no. I'm not a troll. I just didn't read the tutorials, so I didn't even know about stuff like how to rotate views and left-alt to see what I can interact with, etc. Also, I didn't use "recommended" stats for Ranger, I just created a better (imho) stat'd ranger than the defaults and understood better where the battle indicators (like disadvantage, etc.) were located at. I didn't even remember seeing the text at top of screen in my first ship play through. I also got lucky with the above spoiler technique that I didn't even know would work that way - worked better than I had intended, plus I knew where I could walk to before the 2nd group (near controls) would enter battle, so I was able to avoid them until I was ready for them. I also felt like I had better gear this time as well, since I could see who I could loot (left-alt), so I looted more corpses and had more throwables as well.
Last edited by Tatoskok; 15/07/23 10:01 PM.
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Joined: May 2023
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No but it is time-consuming, and that sword is barely worth it. I love that sword! 2 cute! Laz-ael looks so kawaii with it!!!11 I killed the foursome once - it was tedious and I got the F5 and F8 buttons real hot  But killing the Illithid and Zhalk is quick and easy.
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