Originally Posted by fylimar
I don't agree with what he says about Wyll and Gale: they are not good aligned. Maybe Wyll after the change, but he was more than willing to torture an innocent man for information and he didn't care at all about Barcus on the windmill, until he got what he wanted from that goblin.
Gale can sell you out to Raphael, if you don't do exactly, what he wants, for example giving him magical artefacts.

I really hope, he is right about one or two more companions and I really hope, those companions are from the smalelr races and/or halforcs or dragonborn. I really am tired to only see elf, humans and in-betweens.

Oh and I find the ladies downtime clothing really skimpy, really not my cup of tea. SO until I find different clothing for them, they will keep their armor on in camp.


Hmm, I always give him the magical items so I'venever seen him take Rafael's deal. But from what I understand he sells his own soul and only that, which I consider a different thing. It's a bad deal sure, but it only impacts himself really, and considering what he's dealing with it's really a best of bad options situation. Is that what you're referring to or does he do something else more overtly trecherous? And in fairness for the skimpy wardrobe, given the circumstances it's probably literally their underwear, which is amusing to consider.

Originally Posted by 7d7
I see SH as a neutral character. She will approves whatever doesn't cost her much. Doesn't make her truly good. Then again we only saw her at the beginning of the story. I hope we could move her either way depending on how the narrative unfold.

I'm still operating underthe impression that she's neutral evil until I see real evidence otherwise. She's just neutral evil with a soft spot for urchins and the downtrodden. And all that means is that she buys into the good points of her religion. We've only seen her when there's not much to gain from doing evil. Joining up with a cult isn't exactly something a very religious person would be interested in after all. And she's not the least bit surprised or upset about the remains of the canibal feast you run across in the underdark.

People keep pointing out that you can change these character's alignments in play as though that changes the fact that they're starting from somewhere. They aren't coming into this world as morally blank slates. They have beliefs and feelings and ideals that are currently informing their actions. That you can change them through your own actions doesn't change the fact that if left to their own devices, they'll be something. Shadowheart, if left to her own devices, will continue to worship an evil religion with zero hesitation or compunction. Gale will continue to be at best a hubristic fool who'll probably endanger whole cities because of his certainty that he has everything under control. Lae'zel will be typical githyanki and Astarion will be sadistic, cruel and hungry for power so he can topple his former master and probably take his place as an equally terrible monster. Wyll (pre rewrites at least) would probably go on being an easily manipulated tool of his patron. This is who they start out as, and however much you can change them, if you take issue with those starting points then you may not connect with them enough to WANT to see them change.