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I was thrilled when they said they we'd get to interact with our Warlock patrons. However, this brought about a different question. Do you think we'll have any power over what our patron looks like or is? Meaning that for instance, it's no secret what Wyll's patron is. Does this mean however that we should assume anyone that take the Fiend will end up with their patron being a fiend of the same type as his? Are there different fiends, archfey and old ones? My 2.5 year tabletop character has a female Archfey and I'm hoping to recreate him as much as possible. Anyone heard anything about any of this?

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My guess is they'll be custom models and not part of the available playable races so I don't think we'll be able to customize them in any way, that being said they haven't said anything official about it iirc.

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I have no idea but I am incredibly interested in this. If they want to go the easy route they may have it be that we don't see our patron directly, they just communicate through some sort of distant but thematic method so that we're free to headcanon them as much as we like. I think that's the safer option and I wouldn't be against that. My first character will have an archfey patron and I headcanon it as being some kind of warrior fey that taught her to use a blade. So perhaps they'll have our patrons communicate to us in our mind, with the narrator narrating their thoughts and desires and responses to us.

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I want Auntie Ethel as my patron. smile

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I think it's very likely Auntie Ethel is the fey patron, the tadpole is the GOO patron, and fiend warlocks share Wyll's patron.

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GOO have nothing to do with Illithids tho.


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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
GOO have nothing to do with Illithids tho.
Are you talking about in the game generally, or something you have learned about BG3? Because in my experience of 40 years playing D&D elder brains, aboleth, and generally any powerful aberration are considered suitable GOO warlock patrons.

So, unless there is evidence of Cthulhu or Tharizdun uncovered in datamining, I think the tadpole (as a conduit) is the most likely GOO patron.

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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
GOO have nothing to do with Illithids tho.
Yep, GOOlocks usually have Cthulhu, Hastur and Dendar, seeing as Illithids aren't part of the equation when it comes to GOOlocks in D&D.

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I have wondered if the custom character Fiend patron is the same as Wyll's but at this point I think it would be ridiculous if that were the case because for one surely there are many other Fiends one con enter into pact with and she's also after Karlach too...it would be too much if she could also be the player character's patron. But yeah I think I'll also go for the Archfey patron. Dealing with fiends in general seems like a bad idea.

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Do you guys think after tweaks of Hexblade / Pact of the Blade, we still have a chance for a Raven Queen Patron?

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Originally Posted by Lotus Noctus
Do you guys think after tweaks of Hexblade / Pact of the Blade, we still have a chance for a Raven Queen Patron?

No, I don't think so. Obviously, I don't know. Just throwing out my opinion.

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I remember it being said that there would be a chance to interact with the warlock's patron, and at the time, I was thinking: I wonder if they just mean Wyll's patron, or if that option will be available for any warlock. If any, I'm not entirely sure how they will do that.

I do intend to play a warlock, but I'm not getting my hopes up for much in the way of interaction. If I'm pleasantly surprised, great, but this seems like a big ask from the game.

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Originally Posted by Lotus Noctus
Do you guys think after tweaks of Hexblade / Pact of the Blade, we still have a chance for a Raven Queen Patron?
Well Hexblade won't be in the game. They modified Pact of the Blade to work without it. As for the Raven Queen, probably not at launch. I don't think the announced classes and subclasses are it for launch. As for whether they add more later, hard to say...they probably will add a few more bits and pieces post launch but we don't know for sure.

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Raven Queen is not a Forgotten Realms Deity. She is just some being from the Shadowfell.

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Originally Posted by Sai the Elf
Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
GOO have nothing to do with Illithids tho.
Yep, GOOlocks usually have Cthulhu, Hastur and Dendar, seeing as Illithids aren't part of the equation when it comes to GOOlocks in D&D.
None of whom are likely to be in BG3. So, it will be some other being associated with the Far Realm. Note that there is no reason to suppose the patron is anything like god-level power, Wyll's patron is only a cambion.

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Originally Posted by FrostyFardragon
Originally Posted by Sai the Elf
Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
GOO have nothing to do with Illithids tho.
Yep, GOOlocks usually have Cthulhu, Hastur and Dendar, seeing as Illithids aren't part of the equation when it comes to GOOlocks in D&D.
None of whom are likely to be in BG3. So, it will be some other being associated with the Far Realm. Note that there is no reason to suppose the patron is anything like god-level power, Wyll's patron is only a cambion.

How do you know that? If I play a GOOlock, you bet I want Cthulhu as my patron. But seriously, we don't know yet, which patrons we will get and how they will interact with us.


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Originally Posted by fylimar
Originally Posted by FrostyFardragon
Originally Posted by Sai the Elf
Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
GOO have nothing to do with Illithids tho.
Yep, GOOlocks usually have Cthulhu, Hastur and Dendar, seeing as Illithids aren't part of the equation when it comes to GOOlocks in D&D.
None of whom are likely to be in BG3. So, it will be some other being associated with the Far Realm. Note that there is no reason to suppose the patron is anything like god-level power, Wyll's patron is only a cambion.

How do you know that? If I play a GOOlock, you bet I want Cthulhu as my patron. But seriously, we don't know yet, which patrons we will get and how they will interact with us.
We know the patrons will appear in person in the game, and we know Larian like to tie everything into the plot, and we know the plot does not involve Cthulhu. Who would have shown up in datamining if his name was so much as mentioned.

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Originally Posted by FrostyFardragon
We know the patrons will appear in person in the game

We do? Or is just wishful thinking?

We know that Wyll's patron, Mizara, shows up and we know that another cambion, Raphael, was in early access, who may or may not be one of the patron choices.
Beyond that, all we have is hearsay...

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Originally Posted by Kendaric
Originally Posted by FrostyFardragon
We know the patrons will appear in person in the game

We do? Or is just wishful thinking?

We know that Wyll's patron, Mizara, shows up and we know that another cambion, Raphael, was in early access, who may or may not be one of the patron choices.
Beyond that, all we have is hearsay...
Larian said that all the warlock patrons will be appearing in one of the recent videos.

They didn't say anything about "choices" outside of the selection of your subclass. So I'm not expecting more than 1 fiend, 1 fey and 1 GOO. And I'm expecting them all to be at around the strong cambion power level.

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Originally Posted by FrostyFardragon
Raven Queen is not a Forgotten Realms Deity. She is just some being from the Shadowfell.
I think you completely misunderstand...the "Forgotten Realms" is just a different iteration of the D&D Material Plane...that has nothing to do with all the other actual planes of existence in D&D...Shadowfell is a different plane of existence that exists alongside any and all D&D interpretations of the Material Plane. Shadowfell, the same as the elemental planes and all the rest are all there.

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Originally Posted by Darth_Trethon
Originally Posted by FrostyFardragon
Raven Queen is not a Forgotten Realms Deity. She is just some being from the Shadowfell.
I think you completely misunderstand...the "Forgotten Realms" is just a different iteration of the D&D Material Plane...that has nothing to do with all the other actual planes of existence in D&D...Shadowfell is a different plane of existence that exists alongside any and all D&D interpretations of the Material Plane. Shadowfell, the same as the elemental planes and all the rest are all there.
Sure. But in some settings (AKA different prime material planes), such as Exandria and Netir Vale, the Raven Queen is a deity, basically doing the job Kelemvor does in the Forgotten Realms.

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