Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Big news, anyone know what the humans will look like at launch?

So huge news:

According to this video:


ASI are no longer tied to race but class. That means that any race can be any class now. Wanna play that Githyanki CLeric of VLakkith? Wanna play that Dragonborn monk? Or my favorite, Zarukt Starhammer, my Dwarven Wizard? Well those are all now viable as ASI are assigned by class and not race!

Except, does anyone know where that leaves humans? Humans big thing, their only thing, was +1 to all abilitiy scores. If they don't have that ASI anymore, what do they get? Are they going to make the baseline human a variant human (getting a feat at level 1)? Are they going to get +1 to all ability scores in ADDITION to their class ASIs? Anyone heard what is happening to humans?

Yes, yes...the ASI and how crappy the human and dragonborn races are have been very extensively discussed over the past few days across several threads. Have patience and wait, there will be more balancing done to the game before and after launch. I'd be surprised if they don't further touch on a few races.

More like old news Appreciate the thought, but yeah this has been a discussion of the last week or so, really.

There is allready topic for this video:
https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=860364&page=10

You can find most answers there ... but just to make it faster:
Yes, in dump.
Humans got the worse ... they lost 3 ASI
Shield Dwarves and Half Elves lost 1 ASI
And Dragonborns lost the only mechanical appeal for people to play them ... at least they still look cool, so they should be fine.

Light armor proficiency
And Spears, Pikes, Halberds, Glaives proficiencies

It can be seen right on that video in time 1:01

It may seem like shit, and to be honest, it most likely is ...
But as we know from his other video about items, there will be racial specific items, that provides additional bonuses if certain race wields them.

It seems safe to presume Human-specific weapons will be Spears, Pikes, Halberds, or Glaives.
How usefull they will be tho, nobody really knows.

No, it was confirmed by Fextralife, and i believe Wolfheart aswell, that Larian clearly stated there will be NO Varian human at launch.

Nope, just +2, +1 as everyone ... and their potentialy stupid and useless profficiencies.

Unless Larian can be convinced to go back to the original racial ASI or add an option to do so, humans are now utter trash as Rag has stated.
I just hope a mod gets released very soon to fix the hot mess and restore the original racial ASI. I'd prefer if Larian did it, but that seems unlikely.

They get polearm proficiency. So they have an advantage in gish builds

Sorry, I hadn't seen it before and I hadn't seen it discussed by anyone else. Still wondering what they are going to give humans. Hope it is more than just polearm proficiency, as there are several races that get proficiency in some weapons+other stuff.

Don't worry you get a whopping +20 carry weight.

Humans are the OP mule class. They can carry all of your stuff and if they give you shyt, just whip 'em.

I'm not sure there are any gish builds that either A. use strength as their primary attribute or B. don't have access to martial weapons.

I am sworn to carry your burdens…

If kept as-is, shield dwarf worlock is pretty gishy. They get their charisma to hit and damage, dwarf gives them proficiency in medium armor and battle axe. Max 3 spells per short rest but you get other spells as well. Decent gish material.

You have my bow.

And my axe.

Oh, yeah, yeah, me too. You can have some space in my backpack.

Like a pact of the tome or chain warlock? I mean I guess you could do that if you really wanted to. I don't think anyone would ever consider it optimal.
So I guess, sure if you want to get all MAD you could technically make a strength based human wizard using a polearm and focusing on abjuration spells, but at that point just multiclass a bit into something that at least gets you a second attack.

I dunno man, it seems like a bit of a stretch to claim that polearm proficiency is a great start to turn a full caster into a gish.

They are updating the humans:

I suspect they're referring to the unique feel of 20 extra carry weight here.