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Was looking forward to this game, but now after seeing you have bestiality in your game you will not get my money!!! This is FN sick shit!!!

This is not the BG3 Steam forum.

This discourse is a week old. Please go to the relevant topic where the bear sex was discussed.

Unfortunately, this is considered a medium reasonable complaint.

Your punishment will be my three page essay on how consensual sex isn't beastiality. Prepare to be kidnapped at 7 am sharp. It takes a while to install the toothpicks which will prevent your eyes from closing. We had to replace the old ones for hygiene reasons and the new ones don't fit right.

You do realize that scene is purely based on player choices, right? You can just not recruit him as a companion or not romance the druid or if you do you can just not tell him to shapeshift into a bear. I'll probably just kill the druids in act one so I can recruit Minthara as a companion later. That goes for any other companion you might not like. If you don't like any of the companions with stories you could even have them all killed early and then you can roll with hirelings or even by yourself.

Which does not change the OP's point, i.e. that it is in the game and is sick shit.

I have not the interest in producing clever retorts to low-effort shitposting. Please accept this link as my repository of clever retorts involving bear sex:
https://punpedia.org/bear-puns/

While the bear sex is just silly meaningless to me and the guy is overdoing it, the 'its optional' is not a good retort. Child killing vould be option and yiu could choose to skip it just like I did in the FO series, but it still existed. I'm.nkt interested in beastiality or Child killing buy its a roleplayung game so if people choose it that's on them. lol

I wanna be the hero who saves children by choice not kill them.

I wanna be the good guy who doesnt have sex with bears by choice.

That's what morality is big. Morality only exists because you choose not to do immoral things.

Its not beastiality it's a druid.

I'm not gonna debate the finer points of shape changing druids having sex in alternate forms.That road has a lot of pitfalls that can lead to all sorts of nastiness.

Not really. It comes down to two simple logical arguments that would fit both a legal definition and help you to figure out if the event is problematic or actionable.

1. Consent - Are all parties involved able to provide consent? Children and animals cannot consent, but neither is present.
You may be able to make an argument for the squirrel, but the squirrel can leave. Also the illithid tadpole but it can leave also - not to mention it's possibly a unique way to get rid of it.

2. Victimhood - who is the victim here?


In any other logical situation if we go by what people don't like then we become no better than a typical homophobe or racist. If we apply the above standard and there is no conflict then we are in the clear. Our own biases about what is acceptable between two consenting adults are irrelevant. No one is forcing you to experience or partake.

Truth be told. I *am* sad that you can't play *as* Halsin. I wonder how long it would take for Youtube to figure out which, if any, of the companions would say yes to that.

Probably Jaheira, they could actually do it like they do on the Discovery Channel.

Astarion's mindworm during the PfH scene:

And a million voices cried out in terror as they realized exactly why Jaheira cannot be romanced.

Larian says you can murder hobo an entire city with civlians and children... and a consenting sex scene between two grown ups is the sick shit... priorities !

So this should probably be in the feedback section of the forum.

Yup.

Would people who think bestiality with a shapeshifting bear be fine with the option to have sex with an adult spellcaster who shapeshift into a child? I think not. We all know that is reprehensible whether it was an option or not.

Your logic falls apart now, right?

You would rightly be outraged by the above scenario's inclusion.... so why is beastility fine but 'child sex' with someone who is actually a grown adult not? Its gross. We all find it gross, and with good reason.

Having sex with a bear is gross. For many reasons. And, it being 'illegal' is number 1million.

But, hey, it's in the game, and a choice. A choice I will never make so its all good. But, just be honest.

fyi, Comparing sex between two consensenting male human (or humanoid) adults or two consenting adults who happen to be of different skin colour to bestiality is homophobic and racist.

Having sex with a guy is not the same as having sex with a bear. I don't know why that's a difficult concept. Animals cannot say yes. Guys who can turn into bears can say yes. Beastiality is having sex with an animal, not having sex with a guy who temporarily looks like an animal.

And to answer your question, it really wouldn't make any ethical difference if the guy shapeshifted into a child either, because he would be no more an actual child than he would be an actual bear. Though of course we might worry a bit about the partner who finds it arousing to have sex with someone who looks child-like. Not because the act of having sex with an adult shapeshifter is wrong, but because we worry said person might also be interested in repeating the fantasy with a non-shapeshifted partner.

That said, you really have to learn to differentiate between what something looks like and what actually is. Suppose a person has a development disorder that hinders their physical development, making them look like they're 13-14 years old even though they're 30. Would such a person also, in your eyes, be strictly banned from having sex, simply because it looks like sex with a minor? How about a minor that looks 20, then? Would that be okay merely because ti doesn't look like sex with a minor?

By the way, do you have any idea how many people your character is likely to kill over the course of a game? Why is it that you're this much of a wreck over a single case of consensual sex but completely disregarding the graphic murder of many, many people? Do you think that is right and proper and not totally sick shit?

Not really. Because I tend to play 'good guys' (at least first time through); I only fight in self defense or defend others or to end anti dwarf racists' life aka all of larian joinable npcs. Also, when I do choose to play an 'evil' path, I 100% am not playing myself just like Anthony Hopkins is not a cannibal unlike Hannibal Lector who is a character he plays. I think Larian meant it as a fun 'haha' joke but some of the defenses for it seem off just like a lot of the complaining about it annoys me, too.

Like I said previously in another thread, even in FO where you had the option to kill kids, I never did even if I was playing a 'villain'. But, I'm glad the option was there so I could play the non child killer by choice.

As for your reply to my example... I doubt many would agree with you on it, but at least you are consistent in your reasoning so points for that.

And, I'm not a 'wreck' over the bear sex. In fact, I've defended its inclusion because I'm very anti censorship, and I don't care about the moral police. I just think the 'it's actuially a druid' is not a good way to defend and I gave a disgusting example why shapechange is not a good defense. Not to mention the physically implausiblities of such a pairing.

As for the whole adult who looks a child... there was a sad article about that very situation not long ago. It is really complex in that case. But, an exception to the rule doesn't prove the rule wrong. I personally could never have a romantic relationship with an adult who looked like a child. Maybe that makes me look immature. Maybe not. But, nope.


Overall, good interaction.