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I know the game is not released yet but there are some review videos out there already, which I am avoiding due to spoilers.

Is there any info about comparing the content of Tav with playing as Origin? In Dos2, customs were losing quite much content without gaining any.

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I am pretty sure that Tav will get its own content, like the dream sequences with the "who do you dream of?" character. That said, we don't really know how much it will differ from origins.

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I doubt your Tav will be dissapointed. There is however, exactly *what* you roll. I suspect a Tavric of Selune, Shar or Bhaal will have more relevance to the main plot than say, a Tavric of Clangeddin or Beshaba.

By the same token, a Tavbard will unlock a bunch of dialogue options through skill checks, where a Tavranger can talk with animals. So they'll have more content in a sense, than say, a Tavbarian. But that's how it should be. A bard talks his way out of things, a Barbie parks his steel in things. Regardless, I still think none of your Tavs will be shy on content, and every new Tav will be a new experience.


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It all comes down to how much reactivity will the Origin characters get and that we just don't know yet. Will Shadowheart get additional dialogue choices over a Tav cleric of Shar? Will Gale be able to get more than a Tav wizard?

Probably, but how much and will it truly make a difference? Unknown at this point of time.

In terms of content I don't think we will be locked out of anything playing a Tav.

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In general, it first depends on whether you can leave a member of a custom party (full custom party) in camp and pick them up later. Because if that's not possible, then you can't take Origins for their questlines. In BG 1 and 2 this was possible. In Beamdog EEs it was made possible later. At first you had to use a workaround with petrification traps and Stone to Flesh scrolls....

As for Tav itself, I don't know. I only remember very vaguely that it was once said that with custom characters the real role playing will shine. So my expectations are also high.

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I am pretty sure that Tav will get its own content, like the dream sequences with the "who do you dream of?" character. That said, we don't really know how much it will differ from origins.

I hadn't thought of this - but hopefully the "who do you dream of?" character is Tav specific. That would be nice if not even Dark Urge got that interaction. My assumption was all characters would be able to create this character - but that would be a great way to make Tav unique.

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I am pretty sure that Tav will get its own content, like the dream sequences with the "who do you dream of?" character. That said, we don't really know how much it will differ from origins.

I hadn't thought of this - but hopefully the "who do you dream of?" character is Tav specific. That would be nice if not even Dark Urge got that interaction. My assumption was all characters would be able to create this character - but that would be a great way to make Tav unique.

Since the tadpole is not Tav specific and Tav was never presented as an origin of its own with story (compare it to how we were introduced to all companions and even more specifically to the Dark Urge origin) I don't think that part is related to Tav at all. Maybe, but at least Durge has it as we have seen in footage.

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We know that every origin has someone they dream of, but it seems to specifically be a person they knew from their past. So every character gets something different in that sense.

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To the OP's question, I personally suspect and expect the answer will be "people playing as Tav will miss out on a lot." Tav will be, by far, the least satisfying way to play the game, and will have nothing significant and meaningful that is unique to them, only some superficial dialogue and world reactivity.

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Despite what Tav might be losing, for me at least, I'm gaining the ability to play as who I really want to play as, not as one of Larian's characters, which is a big benefit to me, despite the loss of some story.

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Tav will have the least content storywise because the others already are known in the world. But I'm not sure what a Baldurian Tav will be will like. Will people know them depending on your other tags?

Anyway I like that.

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In DoS2 none origin hero’s lost about 1-2 hours of content per act, so over 6 origins tav would be shorted somewhere between 6-12 hours of content if BG3 handles it same way. Personally I think that is a lot of missed content as it is 15-28ish% of the 75 hour playtime. Start origin is my plan

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I heard they were planning on a Positivity Urge character, but they checked out the forums and realized no one would dig that.

So that idea got purged. Get it? Purged? Purge?

Okay, I'll be in the other thread, sorry.

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And original character will be the most satisfying way to play the game. I'm not interested in roleplaying simoine else's character. That's limiting. Might as well be an actor not a roleplayer. Those are Larian's nocs. Best to interact with or ignore them not be them.

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I heard they were planning on a Positivity Urge character, but they checked out the forums and realized no one would dig that.

So that idea got purged. Get it? Purged? Purge?

Okay, I'll be in the other thread, sorry.
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Oh, I don't know. Geralt of Rivia worked for me perfectly for three consecutive games, so did Commander Shepard. Roleplay is to embody someone other than yourself. The Origin characters are that, and you can shape them as you go.

I'm actually rather excited to play Shadowheart first. It'd be so much more fun to see her story unfold *as* Shadowheart, than from the outside as Tav. Just the Nautiloid alone will be interesting; she and Laezal aren't exactly chummy, so how does that play out?

To each his own, though. I am *also* very much looking forward to spending forty hours in the character creator.


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Originally Posted by AusarViled
In DoS2 none origin hero’s lost about 1-2 hours of content per act, so over 6 origins tav would be shorted somewhere between 6-12 hours of content if BG3 handles it same way. Personally I think that is a lot of missed content as it is 15-28ish% of the 75 hour playtime. Start origin is my plan

By that example the other origins would miss out too. The Red Prince would miss out because he didn't get Fane's content or the others'. So Gale, for example, is missing content too. So then Gale would be missing 4-10 hours?

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I think "miss out" is approaching the game in the wrong direction. A Tavric of Bhaal will experience the content one way. When you repay as SH origin you'll experience the content entirely diffently.

The thought of only playing this game once seems anathema to me, and these worries of "missing out" feel like they come from a single playthrough assumption. In any one playthrough I'm not missing out on any content, I'm getting the story of that character. And my next character, whether Durge, origin, or Tav will have a completely different story

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Originally Posted by Veilburner
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In DoS2 none origin hero’s lost about 1-2 hours of content per act, so over 6 origins tav would be shorted somewhere between 6-12 hours of content if BG3 handles it same way. Personally I think that is a lot of missed content as it is 15-28ish% of the 75 hour playtime. Start origin is my plan

By that example the other origins would miss out too. The Red Prince would miss out because he didn't get Fane's content or the others'. So Gale, for example, is missing content too. So then Gale would be missing 4-10 hours?

each origin got 6-12 hours of content related to said origin story mostly though unique quests. So, as long as you picked origin, you got those 6 hours, but if you pick custom, those 6 hours won't exist since custom didn't have story quests just for him.

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Originally Posted by AusarViled
In DoS2 none origin hero’s lost about 1-2 hours of content per act, so over 6 origins tav would be shorted somewhere between 6-12 hours of content if BG3 handles it same way. Personally I think that is a lot of missed content as it is 15-28ish% of the 75 hour playtime. Start origin is my plan

By that example the other origins would miss out too. The Red Prince would miss out because he didn't get Fane's content or the others'. So Gale, for example, is missing content too. So then Gale would be missing 4-10 hours?

each origin got 6-12 hours of content related to said origin story mostly though unique quests. So, as long as you picked origin, you got those 6 hours, but if you pick custom, those 6 hours won't exist since custom didn't have story quests just for him.
But we can access that quest via that origin character being our companion, so... how much content do we miss then?

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