Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by N7Greenfire
Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Ehm ... what exactly is the buff again? O_o
Because a 17 is 1 asi from a +4 meaning they can now dip into a half feat for free essentially. Ir pick up one of the quest related asi boosts to get +4 without any feat use at all
While 16 is exactly 1 ASI from a +4 ...
And as you get +1 to everything, you can set your secondary (no change here), tertiary, quaternary, and quinary ability scores to odd numbers, and get better results in general.

So ... nope, still not seeing the buff. O_o

I can understand there are certain builds that dont care about anything but single Score ... not sure if i would call them good builds, but that is matter of taste.
And i totally understand that in theese VERY SPECIFIC cases, it may seem at first sight as better choice ...

But that hardly makes it straight forward pure buff. laugh

You may say "yay i have my feat" ... and you indeed have it ...
Over the cost of worse spell DC and worse saving throws ... or lower HP and worse Constitution saving throws, affecting both your concentration holding and your resistance against certain spells.

I can see this being matter of priorities ...
But i just cant find the buff there. :-/
Yes but you lose out on the half feat if you go the full asi. Not to mention if you take the asi and get a+1 through quests you will be at a +5 so it's a buff either way
Originally Posted by ToLazy4Name
Originally Posted by N7Greenfire
wider audience
The wider audience isn't a factor as I'm not advocating for the removal of the new system. I want an optional toggle to go back to the old system. There are no wider audience concerns here, this would be a win for everyone.
It kind of is, especially depending on how larian codes this it could be an easy swap, it also might be a mix of spaghetti code. Even if it's easy to do it further complicates character creation to appease a small pool of players

Take pathfinder wotr for example. You put most gamers into that character creation and tell easily get overwhelmed and turned off. There's dozens of posts of players who picked core difficulty and got destroyed.

Mods will hopefully be able to help you guys out but it's understandable if larian doesn't want to include a toggle.

Last edited by N7Greenfire; 19/07/23 06:47 PM.