Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General What was purpose of Early Acess?

Good luck with your move!😊

I don't think Larian is required to listen to any of our feedback but I think this question is worth asking and there's a genuine question there. From a development standpoint I'd say the biggest perk of an EA is stress testing mechanics. Getting stuff into player's hands and seeing how it all works, both from a function aspect and seeing what bugs get found. From that perspective, introducing a bunch of new mechanics without the benefit of that testing is indeed... a bit odd.

I don't feel like the effort has been wasted or that what was achieved has been thrown away, the game made a lot of changes during EA that definitely changed the game for the better: cantrips no longer creating surfaces, high ground rule changes, proper reaction system, tons of bug fixes, etc.

I also don't like and find puzzling many of the recent changes we've seen, but I think that the EA period had real purpose and made BG3 a better game.

Thanks, me and my old dog are going to camp (in air conditioned cabins) as we drive across the US - he is 15 and a half so it will be his last great road trip.

Super excited, but will miss Austin after 25 years here. I won't miss the 110 degree days.


Obligatory dog tax

The dog tax should pay your way. On you go.

awww, he's such a handsome boi

Such a cute dog!😊

100%

I feel community forum feedback has been ignored apart from less floor effects and reaction larians staff seem more intrested in memes drawings and patting them selves on the back even if every one of us stopped posting i dont think Larian would do anything to try and communicate better directly with this forum, maybe ticktock or twitter has a better chance?

I think EA was mostly about funding the game and determining the public’s appetite for BG3. I don’t think we would be getting as massive a game without the dollars and buzz brought in from EA. It allowed Larian to justify expanding enough to put their all into this game.

I also think, as other have said, it was about general feedback. They have testers (not us) to find bugs and give specific feedback on mechanics. That wanted to know from us if the game was fun, if we were liking the characters and story, and if we planned to keep playing.

It could be that a lot of the feedback they’ve received from testers and focus groups is that the game is too overwhelming/complicated at the start, hence trying to simplify things in character creation. Most people here are familiar with DND or have been dedicated enough to learn the mechanics. A lot of people probably would find the game too frustrating to learn. I’m going to attempt a multiplayer game with my husband and I can just imagine his eyes glazing over when I try to explain how things work.

As much as people here complain about things like Shove, there are a lot of people who enjoy how powerful it is and that it is a Bonus Action and don’t care that it isn’t accurate to 5e. It seems Larian’s philosophy is less about “is it overpowered” and more “is it fun?” Which is totally valid for a video game IMO.

I think Larian is also smart enough to know that the hardcore players that want a faithful 5e experience will find mods to make it happen. Everyone else won’t really care about the deviations.

First of all ...
Let me thank those of you who are keeping things civil, i was affraid this will turn into flame much faster and it pleases me that it didnt so far.

Second ...
I have two reactions for those people who im not quoting, since there is several of them, all making same point ... so im answering them all ... decide for yourself if you are one of them, im not going to.

- For those who conciders this whole threat pointless:
Thank you for your opinion.
That is all i can say.

- For those who feels like i demand my opinion to be heared abowe anything else:
I never said that, never wanted that and i still dont.
There is more i can say, but unless you accept this i see no point ... and if you do, you should see there is nothing else to talk about.

Now, few specific reactions, if you dont mind:

I must have missed this ...

There was some announcement?
I thought all theese controversial informations community gathered basicaly by themselves.

Oh, im aware ...
I still can ask tho.

If you know what i mean.

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I agree with every word you said ...

But quoted this part, bcs that is soemthing i agree ESPECIALY.
That is exactly the feeling i was trying to express here, thank you for providing fitting words.

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I swear its not personal, but once again i cant agree with you.

There is system A ... that was tested, people are +/- satisfied with it, and helped shape it.
There is system B ... that was never tested, nor even properly presented, nobody really knows what is hiding there except developers and few small leaks, so nobody except them really knows what to expect.

Easy solution: Just dont remove what is allready implemented.
Bcs that is the worse part, it dont require almost any additional work, bcs we allready have it.

Thanks! He is a Border Collie/Belgian Tervuren mix. (the non-crazy Belgian breed)
His CV is a mile long, he has acted, worked for the Austin school district, and done herding and agility.

Sorry, didn't mean to Hijack the thread, just excited to be moving and going on a last adventure with my best buddy.

Yeah, form materials Larian decided to put forth to the community? Like giving YouTubers their gameplay footage?

They didn't do it by accident. I hope so at least, that would be embarassing.

He’s a good boy is what he is

The primary purpose was to raise money for development of the game. It is incredibly expensive to develop a game like this, and I suspect raising money from EA is better than taking out loans or selling part of the company to investors.

I think Larian erred by soliciting EA feedback and then not acknowledging or responding to that feedback. As far as I am aware, the only change made to the game that Larian has explicitly credited to EA feedback is the reaction system.

It shouldn’t be surprising people who spent a lot of their time providing feedback on early access would become embittered by the lack of response from Larian.

It absolutely was tested, just not by you.

If you think that Larian was required to "properly present" changes to us before they made it into the final game then it bears repeating:


Once we actually get a chance to play the game with the changes, it is useful to keep providing feedback.

As always Larian will weigh that feedback with sources internal and external and make changes as they deem best.

Obligatory dog tax

Such a cute dog!😊[/quote]


Thanks! He is a Border Collie/Belgian Tervuren mix. (the non-crazy Belgian breed)

His CV is a mile long, he has acted, worked for the Austin school district, and done herding and agility.

Sorry, didn't mean to Hijack the thread, just excited to be moving and going on a last adventure with my best buddy.[/quote]
He’s a good boy is what he is[/quote]


Someone should start a thread with Dog/pet pictures in general. Are we allowed?

Thanks! He is a Border Collie/Belgian Tervuren mix. (the non-crazy Belgian breed)

His CV is a mile long, he has acted, worked for the Austin school district, and done herding and agility.

Sorry, didn't mean to Hijack the thread, just excited to be moving and going on a last adventure with my best buddy.[/quote]
He’s a good boy is what he is[/quote]


Someone should start a thread with Dog/pet pictures in general. Are we allowed?[/quote]


That would be great - cute doggo btw.

Thanks! He is a Border Collie/Belgian Tervuren mix. (the non-crazy Belgian breed)

His CV is a mile long, he has acted, worked for the Austin school district, and done herding and agility.

Sorry, didn't mean to Hijack the thread, just excited to be moving and going on a last adventure with my best buddy.[/quote]
He’s a good boy is what he is[/quote]


Someone should start a thread with Dog/pet pictures in general. Are we allowed?[/quote]
Only if someone casts speak with animals or has pet pal.

Some of yall don't seem to understand what feedback means. You can give it sure. But your individual feedback is as valid as anyone else's, any systems change comes from analyzing thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of players.

Most players arnt rules purists and don't care about some arbitrary ruleset. All they want is fun.

If you feel that larian is ignoring your feedback, they probably are, because your wants arnt necessarily healthy for the game, and larian will make more people happy by doing something else.

Larian. Is here to make money, not religiously follow some arbitrary ruleset that's in the process of being changed as we speak.

I don't see why we shouldn't give it a try, in the Chat forum. And there's one good reason why we should ... we'd get animal pics