Originally Posted by Volourn
So.. nostalgia does sell... but you also gotta make the game good enough as well. Imagine that. Nostalgia gets your foot in the door, just like dnd does, but you gotta do more. PE sold on hype. Yeha, hype of nostalgia. That is my point.


Pathfinder does sell. It does work. It did well enough to get a sequel. Not to mention their new game (which I dont care about as much because no dwarves lol). Pathfinder not in top 100 of what? What is the context?

Also, what 'innovation' is BG3 doing? And, yes, BG3 did bank on nostalgia.. why else pick BG3? Why not a whole new game? Why bother including Minsc and Jaheira who seem so disconnect to the rest of the content and the other characters? It is because of nostalgia.

The thing Larian/BG3 is doing is that it isnt just relying on nostalgia, but they're trying (even if I disagree with some of their choices nor do I think the really like bg or dnd for that matter) to make as good a game as they possible can.

Obsidian with PE were simply lazy and didn't do anything with it. For the record, I actually kinda like both PEs - Obsidian's last decent games - but they are flawed by choice thanks to the guiy who was basically in charge who absolutely hated dnd/bg/bio style of games and it showed.

Thankfully, Larian while making BG3, are also in many ways making DOS3. And, it shows. Which means, it'll be really good in that regard with a lot of dnd tint to it. Thankfully, it includes dwarves. Too bad about no dwarf party members or romances, though. frown frown frown

Blind nostalgia only sells only once. Then the well is dry. Also the amount of people nostalgic for pure dnd 5 e is probably in the hundreds, if under a hundred, much smaller consumer base than crpg fans

Steam charts.

Minsc and Jaheria are likely a wotc call, they put minsc in everything. And even if not, they are relativly minor parts of the game. Baldur's gate is also, in the words of Ed Greenwood the perfect setting for a campaign. As it's big yet remote enough for players to be able to do whatever they want