Hey folks, just a reminder that it's of course totally okay for everyone to share their own views and opinions here, but each of us should be wary of repeating ourselves and going round in circles. This is a topic where it's clear we are just not all going to agree, so continuing to back and forth on the same points is unfortunately unlikely to do anything other than get a bit frustrating for everyone whether they're involved in the discussion or not.
I'll just ask everyone to be conscious of when they've made their own position clear, and when it's time to agree to disagree.
"You may call it 'nonsense' if you like, but I've heard nonsense, compared with which that would be as sensible as a dictionary!"
