I'm not sure you're using the word superficial correctly.

Plenty of people remember Fallout, moreover, a lot of the people who make RPGs today consider Fallout to be a touchstone of the genre

Originally Posted by N7Greenfire
If you talk with average rpg gamer 99% won't know anything about the og fallouts.

I wouldent call rpg's niche they are probably the biggest genre second to shooters. They've been pretty mainstream since mass effect if not before.

Mass Effect made a hell of a bigger impact than the wicher 1 for example.

Mass Effect is what I would consider 'fairly recently'. I think the Bioware renaissance is where it started; nerd subculture has become culture over the past 20 years.

I have no idea what the "average rpg gamer" is, but based on a number of people on the internet who talk fondly of playing Fallout, Fallout is a big game for Gen X, that generation is also where being a gamer started to turn the corner from being niche. The Timothy Cain started a Youtube channel a few weeks ago and it has 36k subscribers right now. Todd Howard must have been a fan if he wanted to shell out for the property. I can throw out more nonsense metrics to go by, the point being that the original games are part of the dialogue. Some people consider the sandbox of Fallout and older rpgs to be the most important aspect of the genre, and lament it's absence from modern design.

Last edited by Sozz; 22/07/23 06:59 AM.