Originally Posted by Ixal
Sadly many "gamers" do not want challenge. They want easy games that still tell them that they are hard so they feel powerful and accomplished.
Thats why everything gets dumbed down, including WotC with D&D 5E and OneD&D.


And its not only D&D/BG3. Except for a few games which use difficulty as a way to differentiate themselves like Souls games everything gets more and more easy to "broaden the appeal". So much so that you often have to try very hard to actually lose.

Many Story modes are kinda insulting though. Like "here, have a random +2 on stuff that has nothing to do with battles" in BG3.
I for one fail to see the appeal of games like Dark Souls who have difficult battle mechanics just to ..have difficulty battle mechanics. For some people challenging themselves is fun. Others want to enjoy the world and a story.

On top of that, what does "lose" mean to you? Is it a call to become better or does it mean to not achieve what you want?

To take an extreme example: Visual Novels. In many visual novels there are no bad ends, so getting a game over would be a challenge. But if you pursue a specific route and fail to do so, just getting the "normal ending" instead, would that be losing to you? You did not read the characters correctly, so you failed at your goal.

Losing and winning are usually relatively to the person playing. So someone who plays for the tactics sees a defeat in battle as a challenge to overcome.
Someone who is here for, say, creating a specific character sees loosing when he fails (in their opinion) to truly play that character.
If you fail at a challenge that you do not care about, you are not feeling like you are loosing, you are feeling annoyed that something unimportant to your enjoyment is stopping you from the challenges you are here to.



And its not only D&D/BG3. Except for a few games which use difficulty as a way to differentiate themselves like Souls games everything gets more and more easy to "broaden the appeal". So much so that you often have to try very hard to actually lose.[/quote]