In grymforge you long rest 3 times and Nere suffocates ... all Duergars leave and take Gnomes with them. Therefore you just lost whole Barcus Wroot questline.
That's fair. A good DM would rule the same way.
I dont think i understand you ...
Are you telling me that good DM would present a problem before you, let you run around like Energizer Bunny and trying hard to find solution ... only to tell you at the end, if you would finaly find some and bring it there: "Hey, too late, everyone is gone now." ?
We clearly have different deffinitions of good DM.
In my book "Good DM" would clearly warn you that there is time limit for this quest ... like i dunno.
Sergeant Thrym (or whatever is that barefoot Duergar called): "If this is like other cave ins, we can presume there will be deadly gas ... i dont know how much time they have left!"
See? It wasnt that hard.
Sadly, Larian have pasion and some good ideas, but they are not good DM ... and that is why you only find out about this limit, if you run right to that cave in and try to talk with someone on the other side trough your tadpole.
Why would you do what, especialy if your character is one of those who are trying really hard to resist the tadpole rather than use it?
How would you do that, if you are up on those racks, and have no idea what is even happening down there?
I dont know ...
But if you call that good writing, its clear we wouldnt agree.
In Goblin camp, if you kill all 3 leaders before you talk to Halsin he escapes by himself. (I wonder how he knew.) Therefore you just lost conversation.
Yes, you can miss out on Minthara's questline that way, too. It just plays out differently. It does so because you took a different approach. If you attack the Gobbo's next to Halsin, he escapes, too, but helps you out. IF you do the battle-at-the-grove thing, he escapes on his own, too.
I dont think you understand what im saying here ...
You cant "miss" Minthara Questline ... certainly not bcs Long Rest (you have noticed topic name, right?) ...
All you can do with Minthara Questline is either pick that, or the other one (Halsin in this case).
"miss" =/= "pick"
See the difference?
"If you attack the Gobbo" ... then you picked, i hope we allready cleared that.
"if you do the battle at the groove" ... then you picked, same pattern over and over ... two routes, you can walk only one of them at same time.
BUT!!!
When you go for Halsin ... and meanwile you kill all 3 Goblin leaders ...
Halsin *somehow* knows ... and for some unknown reason he decides that there is no longer any reason to stick there ... and so he escapes.
Therefore you loose dialogue with him ...
If you run around Waukeen's Rest but dont do anything there (dont even look) and Long Rest ... Flaming fist leave, and that blpnde dude dies.
Yes, becasue it is on fire. Oh, but "We'll come back tomorrow!" ... No. This is entirely fair.
I never said its not fair ...
I only say its timed event tied to your Long Rest, that you will miss, if you dont deal with imediately ...
You claimed its impossible to miss events due to Long Rest, the very existence of this event that is missable due to Long Rest, prooves you wrong.
Also ... this countdown start far sooner than when you reach it, i know that once i was fighting Gnolls, and when i come to save Floric, nobody was around anymore.
Shall we do a second round?
My grandfather allways said:
Dont ask for extra, until you eat what you have.
And there are no indications that this can happen.
No, these are things that make total sense within the world, it's just not what you're used to in video games.
Making or not making sense is not the point ...
None of theese situation where you picked something, they all "just happens".
Like 'I choose to put out the fire, but I'll do so next week.' Yeah, I gotcha.
More like "I choose to go to the right on this road ... oh shit, pack of gnolls ... *one fight later* we better rest ... now i choose to go left instead ... hmm, tavern burned to the ground."
So nope ... you didnt gotcha. :-/
