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In my experience, a *lot* of people (especially in online forums) tend to believe their opinions represent objective facts, and state them as such.
So when mixing opinions with factual statements in a post and no indication what is supposed to be "just an opinion", it shouldn't come as a surprise when the whole post is being read as a factual statement.
That's why I'd indeed favor marking opinions as such (can for example be as easy as saying "*I think* it's an insult to all D&D players") which immediately takes away the vibe of you making a statement on behalf of all D&D players when you in fact mean to say it's an insult to *yourself* as D&D player.
Overall it helps a great deal hopefully focusing the discussion on why you feel that way, and not debate the truth of a claim you didn't even try to make.
Just a suggestion to save time + energy. Leaving this thread alone now.

I loved the film. Loved. It.
I wish it did better at the box office so it could merit a sequel.

I think the idea to tie a movie to a game release is a great idea. The problem with a game might be that it is on a less predictable schedule than a movie. The last thing you want is to have the execs telling the game designers, "I don't care! You are releasing it on this date!" And remaining in a holding pattern for a game developer on a massive project is expensive. If they could nail the timing, though, that would be ideal.

"Pretty sure WoTC's shooting themselves in the foot with their OGL1.0 Drama killed some of the hype for that movie anyways, since it pissed off alot of us in the TTRPG community at the time, WoTC just really likes to pissed of their own clientbase half of the time with their own stupid decisions."

Agreed.


Wood Elves: They are brown skinned. Not black skinned. Not white skinned. But, they had black skinned surface elves. That is anti lore.

Drow are the black skinned elves. That's the lore.

There vis nothing wrong with dark skinned elves, but it needs to fit. Wood elves are not black like the drow. Stop trying to erase wood elves. Also, not all thise elves in that scene were wood elves most likely on top of that.


Bottom line the movie was not good. The actors mostly tried. The writing was awful, and the over hype by the media failed as well.

They should make an Icewind Dale Trilogy film.

We've had surface Elves in Faerun with dark skin and afro-centric features since 2001, aka the 3e Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. it's not new. Bye.

Wood elves have been able to be brown since atleast 3.5 e

That's a wood elf next to the drow, brown skin and dreads and all

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/f...tt.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090526075945

1. Drow are not coded African in their appearance. They have straight, white hair and their skin is depicted ranging from shades of charcoal black to dark blue and purple.

2. There are surface elves whose appearances are coded to look African in the Forgotten Realms, and have been for some time.

3. The sorcerer from Honor Among Thieves was a half-elf.

4. This is a really dumb conversation.

I hated the movie with a passion, to me it's on par with bad movies like the new Star Wars trilogy, many Marvel movies in recent years and Highlander 2. There was nothing about that movie I enjoyed, especially not the "humor"...

Mhm, I was hoping that comparison would help me, but I only watched two of the three Star Wars movies mentioned and none of the others.
Though looking at your profile picture does show me someone not appreciating humor.. =P (I am kidding, sorry if too much..)

I have rarely watch movies, but I have been unsure if I should watch this movie. So I do appreciate a bit mroe details (or comparisons) about why someone likes/dislikes the movie? If that is not too much work.


I have heard such a thing before. Do you have a link to any information about that? I am curious, but am somehow too incompetent to find out more myself..

@Volourn, you have made your opinion clear, as have others who disagree with you. Please let's now drop the off topic subject of ethnicity of elves (or actors who play them).

I'm not even sure whether the quality of the film is relevant here, except insofar as if people didn't like it then they're less likely to want to see references to it in BG3. But for what it's worth, I just saw it a few days and thought it was good fun. Not perfect by any stretch, but enough to make me hope that the planned tie-in series by Paramount comes off.

About tie-ins more generally, I have my doubts. I think having lots of stuff like that up front can look like a cynical marketing ploy, as well as requiring more initial investment that increases financial risk if something doesn't sell as much as projected. I would hope that over time BG3 becomes more integrated into FR lore and other media, but think that's best for later rather than now assuming the game lands well and shows signs of longevity.

Yep, I agree with all of this, especially number 1, as someone with black heritage myself, claiming that drow is black coded is about as offensive that whole orc debate.

WotC has been aggravating and alienating me for a couple of decades, and their OGL scandal and canceling a bunch of D&D video game projects earlier this year were the last straws for me. I was soooooo looking forward to those other D&D games, especially the ones being made by Hidden Path and OtherSide, and so I have zero positive feelings towards WotC and its future left in me now. WotC can drop dead as far as I'm concerned.

I don't like where WotC is taking the next iteration of D&D, but I guess their 'play-testers' do, so I will likely return to Pathfinder. That means leaving Faerun which is sad - I have very fond memories of TT games there as well as the BG games. So far the only PF cRPG's (as far as I know?) are by Owlcat - and those were not PF 2. I'd be keen to see something other than Warhammer from them at a later point, or from another studio. Wonder if Larian would ever make a PF game or if they are locked into some sort of agreement with WotC?

Yup, this is my only regret as well. I will very much miss my beloved Realms. But the glorious Realms I knew doesn't really exist anymore anyway.

And yeah, my TT gaming group and I have also dropped D&D and moved to PF 2e.

I don't care about these things, i just like dnd games... learnt most of my dnd lore through nwn 1 and 2 on rp servers its sad but i know some canon stuff anyways... Gaming politics are weird ya'll are nerds lol