Originally Posted by Ussnorway
the bear class is designed as a tank not as a dps... it trades damage output for hit points and no its not a bug
Originally Posted by Ussnorway
the bear class is designed as a tank not as a dps... it trades damage output for hit points and no its not a bug

That is just so beat. Not to repeat myself, but it still kills the power fantasy. And more than that, besides goad (not fun or cool) it’s not even tankier than the wolf. Bear has 12 more hit points, but wolf has 2 more armor class, which makes their effective hit points basically equal against similarly levels mobs.

Against a mob with +3 attack a bear will get hit 60% of the time, a wolf only 50% of the time. Which means a bear takes 20% more hits, effectively negating the, again, nerfed 30 hit point total. Throw in the status effects the wolf avoids more often… what we are left with is Goad. Goad is not why I want to play a master shaper shifter.

Again, I could care less about power differentials. I just want a subclass devoted to shapeshifting to have a form that is actually valuable. Otherwise just give me the extra spells per day from CoL.

With that said, if the owl bear things is true… hell yes.

Last edited by Time4Pizza; 29/07/23 12:40 AM.