Originally Posted by AusarViled
6) bard healing is terrible, stack heroes and throw a potion at the ground for healing surface, better then a lvl 2-3 healing word.

I completely forgot about the throw the healing pot, healing surface trick. Thank you! Honestly thought they would have changed that but of course surfaces dominate.

Originally Posted by Dark_Trethon
You'll miss a ton more rolls when you don't have any charisma or proficiency on a large part of rolls and most of all rolls in crucial plot situations will be without any bonuses. By not being a face you are still making things exponentially more difficult for yourself.

Completely agree with this.

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I think we're debating a few things here:

1) Is a pure wizard more powerful than a bard 1 / wizard? Yes.

2) Are there non-charisma dialogue options? Yes, many.

3) Is it easier to play a good aligned wizard if you have higher charisma and/or persuasion proficiency? This one I say yes. If the goal is to play the prototypical good guy hero, rather than neutral with mixed outcomes or evil murder hobo, at least in EA most of the dialogue options that result in a good aligned outcome are gated behind persuasion, deception, or intimidation which is charisma.

I think this thread has shown there are many ways to do this without dipping bard.

Given all the differing opinions in this thread and the many possible ways to achieve things in BG, I'm hopeful that the great thing about the game is player choice as Larian has been promoting.