Originally Posted by Ieldra2
Originally Posted by Sozz
I think maybe people's idea of what you need to do to be evil is out of step with what it means to be evil. Being evil isn't a record of your deeds, it's your worldview, if you've never hurt a fly before in your life, but you think Might Makes Right, then you're evil. Just because Astarion or Shadowheart haven't twirled their moustaches while murdering children doesn't mean they haven't espoused evil ideology.
This is not how things work. Morality is for social action, and you're judged for your actions using your culture's dominant morality, not for your motivation. In some cultures it doesn't even matter why you do something at all for how you're judged, but all cultures judge certain actions like killing one of your own group. If "good" and "evil" is about morality, then action counts and ideology alone does not, and to say that someone "is" evil or good does not make sense as a rule.

Which means that as long as you're absolutely determined to use that phrasing that someone "is" evil, they're only evil insofar as they do evil. Doing evil is what makes you evil, if anything does. How you think might cause you do to evil, but it won't make you so on its own.

In any case, ideology doesn't matter much for how I deal with companions. It's cause for suspicion, all right, but not for judgment.

You're presupposing morality as social construct, but we're dealing in fantasy setting. Morality is beamed into the material plane from the other dimensions, dimensions lorded over by beings of great power that feed on worship. When we say evil, we're not talking about our culture's social mores, or even the natural ones from which those spring, we're talking about a 3x3 grid overseen by the Laws of this setting.

Originally Posted by Buba68
Originally Posted by Sozz
Just because Astarion or Shadowheart haven't twirled their moustaches while murdering children doesn't mean they haven't espoused evil ideology.
Shar blesses her Priestesses with moustaches?

Shar's Moustaches are the darkest and most voluminous. Anyone with evidence to the contrary is a heretic or infidel.

Last edited by Sozz; 29/07/23 07:29 PM.