Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Yet another video ... simmilarities between BG-3 and DnD ... by some dudes from DnD?

I wonder what do you think about this ...
Bcs, and feel free to call me wrong ... but i was fighting with very strong urge to scream "Liars!" at my monitor ... especialy since the start. :-/

If you hold 5e rules as gospel for some reason then yes bg3 will be slightly diffrent.

But the rules are an imperfect guide for play a game. Not a holy document. And most player ignore quite a few of them.

How many dms religiously enforce encumbrance or tell someone "no you can't eldrich blast that wagon wheel the spell says creature not creature or object"

I'm not going to watch the video, but I can say that even learning the basics of classes, subclasses, feats, proficiencies, etc, will help you learn DND. The basics are still there, no matter how different the specifics are.

I don't play tabletop 5e, or any tabletop for that matter. But I'd say I know the rules for it surprisingly well after having played BG3... and having been subjected to constant complaints about the differences, lol.

I'd say those who prefer their pnp version of the game have expressed themselves more than adequately.

"Liar" is a bit of a loaded word. It carries with it a pejorative connotation. On top of that, it's also slightly old fashioned, if not completely has-been. Nowadays, the type of speech delivered by the two folks in the video would rather be qualified as marketting, or advertising.

To a large degree, BG3 to D&D is apples and oranges, but it's not apples and tennis shoes. I play D&D and I have learned from BG3 quite a bit about playing classes I don't play much in D&D.

One of the two "dudes from D&D" in this video is a senior Larian employee, anyway.

Are you implying that's relevant, or are you just sharing?

I assume he's implying that

A: it's a marketing video

or

B: the Larian employee has a vested interest in making a particular argument, and by making it seem like it's just two random guys, it gives the wrong impression of the video.

I'm cynical, so I vote B.

Utterly wrong.

This is the OFFICIAL WotC D&D channel.


One of the guys is a senior game designer - for D&D, not the video game ie he works for WotC

The other guy is the guy that does all D&D promotional interviews with Jeremy Crawford and as such is pretty well known in the D&D community.

They're not some dudes, this is an official D&D crossover, obviously trying to capitalise on the launch and get some cross marketing

BG3 is not 5e. It's the gateway drug to get non-DND players into 5e.

5e is going to be gone in a few months. Bg3 is a gateway into 5.5

Neither, actually.
Well, I mean, it IS a marketing video and shouldn't even be a controversial take as much as stating the obvious, but that was not the point.
I was just "implying" that the context of who's talking about what matters and these two guys weren't a random pick.


Yeah, I'm aware and nothing that I said was in contrast with it, so not sure why you felt the urge to point it out.
That aside, I WAS in fact *wrong*, since I mixed up the dude with the t-shirt with this guy from Larian:

Indeed...

It just seemed to me like they are advertising it as two almost identical things ... maybe i was listening wrong tho.

On the slightly unrelated note tho:
Am i the only one who is so strongly repulsed by that first man facial expression? I mean ... i probably could say how it feels but i would probably break several forum rules ... so, lets just say he makes me very uncomfortable. :-/

IME, BG3 is really similar to good 5E TT play.

Getting hung up on specific TT mechanics usually isn't worth it, I mean much of TT game is played in narrative form where we hide mechanics behind IC descriptions. One of my friends refuses to divulge character sheet info, you have to guess it from in-game, and one of my buddies hates any immersion breaking talk about mechanics.

Some of the BG3 innovations seem pretty good; weapon maneuvres, no heavy armour strength requirement apart from encumbrance, Tiefling subraces etc... I don't trust WotC to get this right however, they're not the people they were in 2014.