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if we assume that everyone watching is either a noob or a min-maxer Irellevant ... The point of video is to make most effective followers ... Therefore it gives advice to make most effective followers. If you are, or are not min-maxer dont change the fact that this is the way to achieve that ... and that is the reason he kinda need to mention it. O_o I mean ... what is even your point?  Bcs, and i mean no offense ... well maybe a tiny bit ... but this complaining reminds me one Czech youtuber who were making review about Marvel - Avengers movie ... and he was complaining that movie dont offer any deeper thought or message, like The Shawshank Redemption, or Green Mile ... Well, no it dont ... but its also not supposed to.  Same goes here ... This particular guide is clearly not for you, if you feel like things said there are a bit too much ... but they are perfectly valid, and it wouldnt be complete without them. :-/ I didn't have any point, only an opinion. You suddenly had a problem with my opinion, no idea why... Edit: probably misread it for some sort of an argument?
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Nooooooo we’re organizing BG3 forum fight club Tuco is a boxer lol ![[Linked Image from media.tenor.com]](https://media.tenor.com/_BRuN3xmgXsAAAAM/kenshiro-hokuto-no-ken.gif) Fylimar cheated by bringing a switchblade. Who brings a knife to a fistfight?!?! Ehm, I didn't even participate in this thread, so why summon me here? Not really a summon just a random joke about poster vs poster. Apologies. I just thought of a random poster because I thought it would add flavor to the bit. Some jokes are ill conceived and therefore make minimal sense and therefore, judging by the thread, don’t land
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If you're watching a fextralife guide it's to make the game easier.
Why on earth would anyone watch a guide that offers no help to that effect?
You just... wouldn't watch guides at all. I sometimes watch guides just to see what other people are doing, half the time I have no intention of doing anything they do and the other half of the time I only learn what not to do from a guide. And this one is a perfect example of the latter. Fextralife suggests respecing Shadowheart out of her subclass but Larian very strongly suggest that doing so will completely break her companion story: "Keep in mind that certain Origin stories are closely intertwined with their characters' respective classes. If you’re opting for a non-cleric Shadowheart or a Wyll without his warlock pact, this will undoubtedly influence your roleplay options in dialogues and the overall narrative for these characters. But their stories will instead be yours to create." So I am absolutely NEVER going to respec her. Then if you look at most of his party compositions, very few include Shadowheart. So as far as I am concerned that guide is an excellent guide of what not to do in BG3.
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If you're watching a fextralife guide it's to make the game easier.
Why on earth would anyone watch a guide that offers no help to that effect?
You just... wouldn't watch guides at all. I sometimes watch guides just to see what other people are doing, half the time I have no intention of doing anything they do and the other half of the time I only learn what not to do from a guide. And this one is a perfect example of the latter. Fextralife suggests respecing Shadowheart out of her subclass but Larian very strongly suggest that doing so will completely break her companion story: "Keep in mind that certain Origin stories are closely intertwined with their characters' respective classes. If you’re opting for a non-cleric Shadowheart or a Wyll without his warlock pact, this will undoubtedly influence your roleplay options in dialogues and the overall narrative for these characters. But their stories will instead be yours to create." So I am absolutely NEVER going to respec her. Then if you look at most of his party compositions, very few include Shadowheart. So as far as I am concerned that guide is an excellent guide of what not to do in BG3. This brings to question how the story hooks work - do they care about Shadowheart being a CLERIC or about being a TRICKERY Cleric? Because if it is the former I see no problem with respeccing her into a different Domain and adjusting her god-aweful stats spread. By the way - if we only get the Tashas Cauldron of Badly Cooked Leftovers ASIs of +2/+1 Shadowhearts stats spread at the start of the game are impossible to get for PCs. I wonder if Larian has adjusted her stats - and if they have adjusted the rest of the games NPC half-elves too.
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I didn't have any point, only an opinion. I am not familiar with concept of opinions without a point ... How does it work?
I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings.  Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are!
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If you're watching a fextralife guide it's to make the game easier.
Why on earth would anyone watch a guide that offers no help to that effect?
You just... wouldn't watch guides at all. I sometimes watch guides just to see what other people are doing, half the time I have no intention of doing anything they do and the other half of the time I only learn what not to do from a guide. And this one is a perfect example of the latter. Fextralife suggests respecing Shadowheart out of her subclass but Larian very strongly suggest that doing so will completely break her companion story: "Keep in mind that certain Origin stories are closely intertwined with their characters' respective classes. If you’re opting for a non-cleric Shadowheart or a Wyll without his warlock pact, this will undoubtedly influence your roleplay options in dialogues and the overall narrative for these characters. But their stories will instead be yours to create." So I am absolutely NEVER going to respec her. Then if you look at most of his party compositions, very few include Shadowheart. So as far as I am concerned that guide is an excellent guide of what not to do in BG3. I intend to keep Shadowheart as Trickery Cleric too, however respeccing Shadowheart out of her subclass does not mean non-cleric Shadowheart. It means different Cleric subclass other than Trickery, which shouldn't affect the story at all.
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I intend to keep Shadowheart as Trickery Cleric too, however respeccing Shadowheart out of her subclass does not mean non-cleric Shadowheart. It means different Cleric subclass other than Trickery, which shouldn't affect the story at all. Even though they say cleric in the blogpost I belive it is her subclass that is locked and respecing her into a different domain will have the same effect of breaking her quest. Swen mentioned in a different interview that two companion subclasses are locked, and even though he didn't drop names at the time it was widely understood it is Shadowheart and Wyll. Also important to remember that Shar is the most evil deity in D&D...respecing Shadowheart into a domain of life or light would make zero sense...so screw around at your own risk.
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Folks like WolfheartFPS et al. went quiet. I think we know why /jealous Wolfheart released a video on something yesterday and said sorry this video is so short and not put together I have been working on 'other things' that I cant talk about yet.
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Folks like WolfheartFPS et al. went quiet. I think we know why /jealous Wolfheart released a video on something yesterday and said sorry this video is so short and not put together I have been working on 'other things' that I cant talk about yet. He mainly went over what was said in Community Update 22 iirc. But I think that was a thing he recorded on short notice, not something that was planned. I think all the major content creators who are into BG3 are busy filming guides or playthroughs as we speak though.
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Folks like WolfheartFPS et al. went quiet. I think we know why /jealous Wolfheart released a video on something yesterday and said sorry this video is so short and not put together I have been working on 'other things' that I cant talk about yet. He mainly went over what was said in Community Update 22 iirc. But I think that was a thing he recorded on short notice, not something that was planned. I think all the major content creators who are into BG3 are busy filming guides or playthroughs as we speak though. Yes exactly. I thought it was kinda funny cus if it was me I would have just been like On Friday "oh sorry fans I didn't even see that community update" but he is a good guy
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I didn't have any point, only an opinion. I am not familiar with concept of opinions without a point ... How does it work? It works great.
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Ehm, I didn't even participate in this thread, so why summon me here? Not really a summon just a random joke about poster vs poster. Apologies. I just thought of a random poster because I thought it would add flavor to the bit. Some jokes are ill conceived and therefore make minimal sense and therefore, judging by the thread, don’t land No worries, I was just surprised to read my name while skimming through this thread 😁. Cheating is not a problem, but I will bring fireballs.
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If you're watching a fextralife guide it's to make the game easier.
Why on earth would anyone watch a guide that offers no help to that effect?
You just... wouldn't watch guides at all. Well, I don't tend to look at fextralife guides specifically, but when I do look at build guides, it's not so much to make the game easier, but to help me understand mechanics. I've looking at a fair number of Sin Tee videos, but I've never adopted one of his builds "as is." They're optimized for combat, and combat is only one of the things I care about when creating a character. Still, I like my choices to be well-informed, with at least a moderate understanding of implications and trade-offs.
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In don't play DND so not familiar with the Lore. But given the understanding Shar is evil...does playing her as a light Cleric really break that immersion? Doesn't seem like much of a stretch that A Cleric with an Evil God would want to be caster heavy and blow up things with Fireballs.
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Bcs, and i mean no offense ... well maybe a tiny bit ... but this complaining reminds me one Czech youtuber who were making review about Marvel - Avengers movie ... and he was complaining that movie dont offer any deeper thought or message, like The Shawshank Redemption, or Green Mile ... Well, no it dont ... but its also not supposed to.  Gonna jump in here because- Yes, a movie can be fine as a turn-your-brain-off entertainment. HOWEVER, a movie can have action, stakes, and even be made for kids and STILL have a deeper message and good writing. I saw people defending the new Mario movie to hell and back by saying "it' a movie for kids why are you expecting good qualities out of it" to which I can now respond "Nimona, a movie released earlier this year, was ALSO made for kids and it was LEAGUES better in terms of writing and theme." That's excluding all the stuff like Gargoyles, Courage the Cowardly Dog, etc. The idea that you can excuse poor writing and shallow themes with "it's just x" is silly. Just have higher standards for the million/billionaires.
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In don't play DND so not familiar with the Lore. But given the understanding Shar is evil...does playing her as a light Cleric really break that immersion? Doesn't seem like much of a stretch that A Cleric with an Evil God would want to be caster heavy and blow up things with Fireballs. Shar is the goddess of Darkness. She wants to destroy all of creation, because Selûne create the Sun to warm Chauntea. The Light domain is about Light and Warmth. Basically, a Light Cleric will *always* be in total opposition to Shar, thus it would break immersion. Kinda like making a War Cleric of Eldath (Domain: Pacifism).
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If you're watching a fextralife guide it's to make the game easier.
Why on earth would anyone watch a guide that offers no help to that effect?
You just... wouldn't watch guides at all. I sometimes watch guides just to see what other people are doing, half the time I have no intention of doing anything they do and the other half of the time I only learn what not to do from a guide. And this one is a perfect example of the latter. Fextralife suggests respecing Shadowheart out of her subclass but Larian very strongly suggest that doing so will completely break her companion story: "Keep in mind that certain Origin stories are closely intertwined with their characters' respective classes. If you’re opting for a non-cleric Shadowheart or a Wyll without his warlock pact, this will undoubtedly influence your roleplay options in dialogues and the overall narrative for these characters. But their stories will instead be yours to create." So I am absolutely NEVER going to respec her. Then if you look at most of his party compositions, very few include Shadowheart. So as far as I am concerned that guide is an excellent guide of what not to do in BG3. You read that wrong then. Making shadowheart tempest instead of trickery doesn't make her a non cleric.
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Pretty much every press release since has clarified that you can completely respec every character and that at worst it'll make their specific origin stories a little immersion breaking
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You read that wrong then. Making shadowheart tempest instead of trickery doesn't make her a non cleric. I've already answered this, no, I really don't think I read that wrong: Even though they say cleric in the blogpost I belive it is her subclass that is locked and respecing her into a different domain will have the same effect of breaking her quest.
Swen mentioned in a different interview that two companion subclasses are locked, and even though he didn't drop names at the time it was widely understood it is Shadowheart and Wyll. Also important to remember that Shar is the most evil deity in D&D...respecing Shadowheart into a domain of life or light would make zero sense...so screw around at your own risk.
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In don't play DND so not familiar with the Lore. But given the understanding Shar is evil...does playing her as a light Cleric really break that immersion? Doesn't seem like much of a stretch that A Cleric with an Evil God would want to be caster heavy and blow up things with Fireballs. It's not just a matter of beaning evil. Shar is a goddess of darkness, secrets and sneakiness. And the twin sister polar opposite of Selune goddess of the moon. Shar is an eclipse. And BG3 is full of imagery associating Shar with darkness. You don't need to be a D&D lore expert for it to be obvious that a light cleric of Shar makes no narrative sense. It's a case of yes, the game won't stop you doing this, but don't expect the story to still make sense. Do you care about the story, or do you just want to "beat the game"?
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