Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Help Tips & Tricks Issues with stealth after the full game release.

Okay so maybe I'm just not getting how stealth works now but:

I absolutely cannot keep myself hidden.

I have expertise in sealth, with 18 dex.

When I hide outside of a vision cone, the enemies know exactly where I am and just attack me anyway. I noticed a white ghostly version of myself which I assume is where the enemies last saw me stealth. Doesn't matter. They zero in right on me anyway even after I've moved away from that in one turn.

When doing this, I made sure to stay inside the shadows (no i'm not trying to hide in broad daylight, i'm paying attention to the light levels)

If I'm currently stealthed, and I end up entering an enemy vision cone (be it me or the enemy moving) there is no stealth check. I do not roll to see if I've been seen. I am just automatically seen and stand up from hiding and thus cue being merc'd.

Am I just terrible at stealth or is there a bug happening somewhere?

TL:DR: Hiding doesn't matter and I may as well not even be stealthy.

1 hide = they see all around for stealing

2 Larian changed the way stealing works after EA... now its the Fuckpunk system where cops drop from the sky knowing it was you

dont have the item on you, dont put up a fight and you get one free trip to jail which is easy to escape [wait 10 turns for debuff to go away] and you are golden

need another item nixed without fighting = take it in turn mode then change to normal mode and jump away [fast travel] then don't bring that character back i.e swap them out

advantage dex [Enhance Ability], Invisible [various ways] and have your Bard perform as a distraction are all good options to improve chances

Stealing is perfectly possible. You just have to work a bit for it.

1) Turn off all light sources, if possible.
2) Have a character with expertise in sleight of hands and stealth
3) Enter turn based mode
4) Cast guidance or cat's grace on the thief
5) Use a different character to start dialogue with the merchant to ensure they're facing the right way
6) Leave dialogue and check that turn-based mode did not switch itself off
7) Pickpocket and do not get caught (savescum for this part, I guess)
8) Once pickpocket is done, keep turnbased mode on and get the thief out of there. Feel free to dash.
9) Stay in turn based mode for a few turns, but get the thief *away* and into a nice looking shadow off the beaten track. Then hide.
10) Let the merchant go nuts over the pickpocket and accuse random party members. Remember that Shaggy song a while back. "It wasn't me!"
11) Eventually the merchant is going to realise that he can't quite find the thief, quit aggroing over it, and go back to being a merchant. At that point your thief can unhide, stroll right back, and trade like nothing ever happened.

But do keep in mind that you can't quite tell how many vision cones are pointing in a given direction and you have to make a stealth check for each one. And even +4 from Dex and +4 from expertise doesn't quite ensure that you can keep rolling high enough to not get spotted. The game log is terrible in this regard, as it doesn't show you each roll, just "Tav lost condition: Hiding".

Also keep in mind that while the AI cannot see your PC, they do know where they last saw your PC, and they generally will try to go to that spot and see if they can spot you. And if they have darkvision and you're like 8 feet away from the spot, then you're not exactly covered by the darkness.

+1. What is the point is a stealth skill if you don't even get to roll to see if you remain hidden?