Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Build Discussion A question about the wizard scrolls thing

Hey folks!

First and foremost I hope you enjoy the game as much as I do!
Buuut there is something that I realised thats kind of a bummer...

So I am playing this firebreathing lizard paladin / sorc, thats pretty much only using 2h weapons mixed mit fire magic (only).
The problem is, that I thought (especially with the name "draconic bloodline") that I would get access to all the fire spells. Turns out that there are wizard and druid fire spells that I cannot really learn... Or can I? (*VSauce music intesifies*)

So I've heard that wizards can learn spells from scrolls permanently. Could I technically respec as a wizard - learn the cool fire spells - and then reclass to my paladin / sorc - while keeping the spells?
I know that would be kinda OP but there were more crazy exploits in videogame history - so is this possible? Or do you loose the spells? I sadly can't test it, because of my oathbreaker & lack of gold. :')

If thats not working.. is there a way to learn specific spells from other classes? Like the feat thing with the wizard specialisation? (I think you can only get the low level stuff through that, which wouldn't help sadly.)

Have a nice day and a good time in BG3 peeps!

Need a wizard level to have wizard spell slots. One level is enough, chuck on warped headband and you'll have 4 wizard spell slots to work with.

I do not believe your list of spells known survives a respec.

It does. Not ones you learn from leveling up, just ones you learn from scrolls.

yes a mage can learn scrolls [of a level they could cast] so you can't learn a l2 spell from a scroll until your mage level is at least l3

yes you could multi to paladin / sorc but they dont tend to work well with mage

How certain are you about this? The BG3.Wiki (https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Scrolls) makes no mention of wizards being restricted in their ability to scribe spells of a higher level than for which they have spell slots. Frankly, this whole "1 level of wizard" thing would be a max-level gimmick if what you say is correct.

i'm currently playing a wizard mate

to be clear, if you only take 1 level of wizard you get to pick two level 1 spells to learn as part of your level then you can scribe spells i.e, learn them for 100G of a spell level 1 or cantrips

in early EA a wizard could learn any spell they found a scroll for so you could have say heal but in release its only spells a wizard is allowed to know

Yes, I had read the scribing of spells from other classes was now barred. However, based on videos I've seen that were posted post-launch, my understanding is that a level 1 wizard can still scribe wizard spells of any level found on scrolls and prepare a number of these equal to level (1) plus Int modifier.

Wizard multiclass can scribe the level of spells they have slots for.

Half and one-third caster classes are rounded UP, not down, when determining spell slots.

My Eldritch Knight started double Fireballing enemies with Action Surge at lvl 8, Fighter 5 / Wizard 3. Spell slots 4 3 2. In 5e you would have to be 10th level 5/5. Eldritch Knight needed a buff, but certainly not like this. And this affects all caster classes.

A Cleric 11 / Wizard 1 will get access to both 6th level Cleric spells AND 6th level Wizard spells. By having one level of Wizard. (Probably Cleric 10 / Wizard 1 already gets 11th level spells from Cleric list as well.)

Larian completely borked the system and are probably very satisfied with the exploitable mess of a situation they created because class identity is dissolved into a classless caster system. A Wizard should always dip in 1 level Cleric for Heavy Armor and the entire Divine spell list. A Wizard can freely dip into Sorcerer for their metamagic abilities (and pick only spells that don't require Cha, like Shield) without losing anything except 1 prepared spell per non-Wizard level which is not a big deal. It's really stupid but there it is now. WotC should have more say about Larian messing things up so badly but I doubt their contract allows it.

That was my understanding from what I have read and seen online since launch.


Except my understanding is this only works when multiclassing out of wizard. I don't believe one could roll cleric 1/wizard 11 and achieve a similar effect.

I tested respeccing a 9th level Gale into Tempest Cleric 5, Storm Sorcerer 2, Evocation Wizard 2:

Casts and prepares Cleric spells as a 5th level Cleric using Wisdom. Heavy Armor, Destructive Wrath / Channel Divinity / Destroy Undead

Casts 3 chosen Sorcerer spells. Two Sorcery points to fuel two metamagic options on also Cleric and Wizard spells. Tempestuous Flight from Storm Sorcerer.

Prepares 2+Int Wizard spells, but can learn and prepare spells up to 5th level. Retains all spells learned from scrolls, but loses those picked on level-ups.

Spell DC's are incorrectly displayed for all classes as using Int. Didn't test how they actually work.

The only wonky thing seems to be the Wizard part being able to prepare spells above the Wizard level. Assuming that's unintended since he can't prepare Cleric spells above 3rd. Why would only Wizard be exploitable?