Originally Posted by Firesong
I'm navigator4223 on the Steam forums and the place is incredibly toxic, unlike here.

Please, for the sake of the community, but also for the sake of game PR and marketing, send one or two moderators over there to clean up and keep the nonsense in check.

Many threads and postings there are insulting to community members from the LGBTIQ+ spectrum, for example, also there is a lot of trolling.

I ask here because I can see on this forum here that Larian has great people for this job, but the Steam forums may be the very first contact many people have with this game so I think it would be reasonable to moderate over there, too.



This is wrong.

You actually expect larian to be responsible for the actions of others on a website that they don't own and don't control. You are not on the side of the angels here. You expect a business to go around policing thought, that is not good.

People are going to say, rude, offensive and inappropriate things. It shows the measure of a person's maturity to IGNORE them. If you let others dictate your mood by their speech you will be in a state of perpetual misery because people are always going to be disrespectful, rude, disagree, take the opposite position as yourself, cross your moral lines.

Let me give you an example I find the last panel from hell has something that I found offensive, bestiality. I didn't find the joke funny and I wish I never watched it. I found it in bad taste. You know what i didn't do? Tell people to regulate Larian studios so they couldn't add this, I didn't state on social media how offended I was either. I let the incident pass by. For numerous reasons...

1) I wasn't going to let a joke ruin my mood.

2) I don't believe in telling strangers what morals they should have

3) I don't believe in virtue signaling my morals. It has been my experience in life that virtue is self evident, virtuous people don't need to tell others of their virtue because it is self evident. The only people who actually need to signal their virtue are people who are not virtuous and hold dark secrets they don't want others to know so tend to announce their "virtue" to deflect and distract from their own failings.

4) It was a joke and even distasteful jokes should not be viewed in the same light. Jokes are not actually dog whistles as much as authoritarians claim they are.

5) I am in control of myself. My actions are not dictated by others, so i wont react to every slight, insult or offensive thing in my life. My time, mental health and joy are not worth self righteous indignation towards others. I will simply not engage as many of these posts you were offended by, will be by people who don't actually agree with the statements posted but will write said statements to anger people and ruin their day. Why? I don't know, trolls seem to get pleasure from the misery of others and the best way to punish a troll is ignore the post.

6) I take a stoic look on life, there will ALWAYS be hardships, disappointment, pain and there will ALWAYS be things beyond your control when it comes to these negative aspects of life. So if you can not control them, why allow them to ruin your life? The more you are exposed to negative aspects of life and don't let these things ruin your peace the less power negative things have over you. Cognitive behavior therapy is incredibly effect in managing our ability to deal with the negative. So this has actual psychological practice that is beyond the philosophical and into the practical.

7) I believe that individuals should have the freedom to be offensive. No one should be able to ban larian from expressing art or opinions that are offensive. Because if offensive is the metric then all of us are guilty because all of use have opinions that are offensive to others.

8) By not making the video a big deal and not becoming "offended" by it. It doesn't occupy my mind, it doesn't live rent free in my head bothering me. This is the most i have thought about it since the video and now it occupies a positive point of my mind because i can use it to illustrate an example. After this post it will fade away back into obscurity in my mind, not able to make my life worse.

9) Never let people tell you others that disagree with you are lesser. That they should be punished for thought. That their opinions makes them evil. This is the process of othering and every time this has been done in history unchecked, as far back as we can go, this ends in blood. This is not the path to a better society it is the path to ruin.


Words are not actual violence. If you don't believe me then think on this. If you have a choice to have five people say mean things for you for 1 minute or 5 people would punch and kick you as hard as they could for 1 minute, which would you take? Because i know for a fact that every person who picked the 5 people saying mean things about you would survive and would not need to go to the hospital. I also know that some people would die if 5 people beat them up as hard as they could for 1 minute. You can kill people very quickly with actual violence you can't with words. Do not lets words control you.