Originally Posted by Archaven
i'm about to spend 100g for respec. serious question. i can't decide to go for CON or CHA. 16 CON better than CHA for Paladin? What spells/abilities that uses Paladin CHA?

Classes that need more than 3 stats are quite tough to build, but you can have 18 / 16 / 16 / 8 / 8 /8 at level 4 if you choose to min max, the issue is deciding which stat you want the 18 in.

Personally I've currently dumped my Con score to 12 on my sorcerer after realizing draconics get extra HP anyway in favour of 18 Cha, 16 Dex, 14 Wis for perception and insight.

Having said that 14 CON is perfectly fine on all classes, 16 is for classes that wear armour that only get a maximum of +2 AC from dex bonus and don't cast spells, but even for EK and Arcane Trickster you can still dump casting stats and just use no save spells and buffs (magic missile, shield, sleep and colour spray are all nice options for them at level 1, then mirror image and blur at level 2).

For a paladin I strongly recommend dumping DEX to 10 and using heavy armour with no DEX bonus. Str, Con and Cha should be the focus stats, I'm not sure if they need Wis for spell DCs, but in that case don't use DC spells, focus paladins for heals and buffs. 18 str / 14-16 con, 16 cha would be my choice, with the con choice determined by if you want any points in wisdom.

Also On Laezel I use 18 str / 14 dex / 16 con / 8 int / 10-12 wis? (cant remember), 8 cha, because the wisdom helps with her racial ability set to Wisdom proficiencies. If I find a decent set of heavy armour thats better than medium with +2 dex bonus, I'll dump her dex later because I don't use ranged weapon on her, I make her a polearm focused build with EK and returning throws on any weapon. When I tried to throw a greatsword it only does 1 damage, for full damage it needs to be a weapon with the thrown tag so spears, and then theres a polearm feat that lets you attack twice per action with spears so I'll take that at a higher level.

Karlack I use for greatsword / greataxe, 18 str, 16 dex, 16 con, 8 in each caster stat, she only gets +2 AC from dex in medium armour, but an extra +1 to hit with heavy crossbows with 16 dex.

Last edited by DumbleDorf; 09/08/23 08:48 AM.