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All four of those companies are crappy. Two of them have never made a good game, and the other two are past their prime wuth their current games suck. Bg3 is overrated, but still better than what those awful companies could offer us at this time. For example I didnt have high hopes for da4. It will almost very likely suck the big one.

Imagine actually listing CDPR there

You almost had me

Can you clarify what you mean?

Obsidian is doing Avowed, copying Skyrim instead of working on a new NWN3.

Bioware is not the same since Dragon Age 1, EA destroyed the true Bioware, so Dragon Age 4 will be like DA3 or worser.

CDPROJECT and RPG are two different train track.

The Elder Scroll VI will be always on first person, so Larian hasn't got any concurrent player at the moment.

I would put Dragon Age 4 definitely in the worse category based off the leaked footage. I did not like DAI, but DA4 switch to an action RPG is bewildering to me. Of all the big AAA video game series, Dragon Age has consisthad the worst animations, and unless they really make an effort to improve that, it looks like it will be a janky as hell action game.

Avowed is not in any way a copy of Skyrim. That is a patently false claim.

All the DA games were good games in my opinion, and they all sold quite well. So I fully expect DA4 to be a good game as well.

Witcher 3 is absolutely an RPG, and an excellent RPG at that.

Nothing is known about TES6 yet, so claiming it will be only first person is silly.

Yknow if you liked all of the DA games I really think you should at least give BG3 a chance.

I hadn't seen anything about Avowed, but having just watched a trailer, ehh...not digging the vibes I'm getting at all. Combat seems Skyrim-esk but worse if that's possible, graphics seem..off somehow? And the writing seems a bit too wheedon-esk for my tastes. I'll wait to see though, I'm always up for more good games.

The first trailer for Avowed a few years back was so cool. Then it got rebooted 1-2 times. I hope it’s more like a PoE game from a first person perspective set in an open world built like Skyrim… but it’s probably just going to be fantasy Outer Worlds.

I’d be more on board with all of that if it had the option to play in third person. 1st person only is almost always a deal breaker for me. I just don’t enjoy that style.

I liked DAO and DA2 well enough, but DAI had a lot of stuff, I didn't like. I'm not sure, I will bother with DA4 tbh and I always was a Bioware fangirl until a few years ago. EA really did nothing for them imo.

Dragon Age Inquisition is a guilty pleasure game for me. It's definitely not... good, but I love it anyway. There is an interesting story in there, buried under all of the busy-work and with the ending chopped off and sewn back on as DLC. I have very little hope for Dreadwolf, but I do want to like it.

Back on topic, BG3 is up to 875,000 concurrent players, absolutely monumental! It was the second-most played game on all of Steam this weekend. Utterly insane for a niche genre like a CRPG by an indie studio.

The bear sex gambit paying dividends.

What those numbers prove is that BG3 did not raise the bar (as the old Baldur's Gate 1/2 did), it just made the high budget AAA developers and games look like clowns under the bigtop. It showed that current AAA development SOP/cycles are bloated and broken (Diablo IV is a perfect example). Larian was agile and efficient in development. They don't have a useless CEO/president that does nothing but sit in his castle raking in tons of cash.

Obsidian has specifically said the most recent trailer video does not represent what the game will look and feel like as it uses pre-alpha footage. They have also said that although the gameworld will be very large the game is not open world, and rather will be a story-driven game. The "reboot" was driven entirely by abandoning the initial concept of the game being a multiplayer game to now being a single-player focused game.

But having said all that, I agree with you @Warlocke that the game being exclusively first-person would be a deal-breaker for me. I've been hitting that point hard on the Obsidian forum.

A big reason to go 1st person (aside from simply a creative choice) is budget constraints. With all that MS money maybe they can change things. Dunno how feasible such a big alteration is at this point though. Changing camera perspective should also mean changes to other combat and control systems, unless they want to be Bethesda and have both 1st and 3rd person feel at least a bit janky.

The only strictly first person games I’ve ever enjoyed at Half-Life 2, Metro 2033, Portal 1 and Portal 2. Maybe Avowed with be the 5th, but it would need to be something incredibly special and they haven’t shown off enough of the game for me to know yet.

Babe wake up new chess meta just dropped.

I'm right there with you. Replaying the Mass Effect trilogy fairly recently and loving it even more now and then trying to play DA:I and being so utterly disappointed is sad. I'm honestly not looking forward to any more BioWare because EA just can't be trusted. They'll just HAVE to design the game around some sort of microtransaction, extra content, etc. They won't be able to help themselves. They'll see BG3 and think "Okay, we can something that reaches 60% of that for a lot less, sell it for the same, AND we can add a bunch of other stuff to make even more money!"

Almost 2 weeks after launch, and BG3 is still the top selling game on steam! On metacritic it has 97 from the critics (32 reviews) and 9.2 from users! On Steam it has 94% all time and 96% recent.

Happy to contribute. I'm considering buying their older games on top. This is the way to design and produce and market games.