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Hey fellow adventurers,

I'm thrilled to dive into the world of Baldur's Gate 3 and I'm looking for some sage advice on my party composition and who should take the lead in dialogues. I've got that old-school itch for a Fighter (Lae'zel), Cleric (Shadowheart), Rogue (Astarion), and Wizard (Gale) team. You know, the classic Tank, Healer, DPS combo that brings back those fond memories of RPGs. But D&D isn't as black and white as some other games, and that's where I could use your insights.

Party Roles and Composition

Lae'zel is the unyielding shield, Shadowheart mends wounds and spirits, Astarion dances in the shadows, and Gale wields the arcane with brilliance. To me, this is the kind of synergy that makes RPGs truly classically magical.

Dialogue Dilemma

Now, let's talk dialogue dynamics. Who should be the voice of reason and persuasion in this motley crew? Apart from Astarion's natural charm, charisma in terms of points isn't exactly oozing from any of them, but we've got options to fiddle with via respec or character creation.

Shadowheart comes with Charm and Disguise Self, which could make her the undercover diplomat. Meanwhile, Astarion is charisma personified, with Deception, Performance, and Persuasion in his back pocket. Gale's got Persuasion too, but his brainpower makes him a natural fit for Arcana, History, Investigation, Religion, and Nature. Yet picking him might mean sacrificing some utility in Insight and Persuasion.

The Shadowheart vs. Astarion Conundrum

This is where it gets tough. Should I hand the conversational reins to Shadowheart or Astarion? Astarion's smooth-talking background and his skills' versatility make him a tempting choice. But then there's Shadowheart - her Trickster Domain abilities can't be altered for roleplaying integrity, and I respect that. It feels like I might have arrived at a conclusion through writing this out, but bear with me.

Logical Deduction and Charismatic Shifts

Considering Shadowheart's Trickster Domain, it feels like she might be the ideal dialogue anchor. But there's a snag - she's a Cleric, and that comes with its own ability score demands. Her default stats set her up as a jack-of-all-trades, but I'm thinking of a slight tweak:

- Strength 10
- Dexterity 12
- Constitution 14
- Intelligence 10
- Wisdom 16
- Charisma 14


Sure, this might take her out of the melee limelight, but honestly, I envision her as a strategic powerhouse, buffing, debuffing, and healing her way to victory. It's like her Trickster talents extend beyond combat and into dialogue manipulation too.

In Conclusion

So, after this delightful ramble through my thoughts, I think I've settled on Shadowheart as my dialogue maestro. Her unique domain and the potential to reshape her character stats in a meaningful way make her a fitting choice. But, as always, I'm open to your insights, fellow adventurers!

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And where does your main character fit in?

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Originally Posted by Beechams
And where does your main character fit in?

I'm tempted to pick an origin character from one of those four and in this case based on my deduction I' d probably be tempted with picking Shadowheart as I feel that the main character should probably also be the vocal point.

On top of that, with regards to the feat. "War Caster", it might be useful to pick Shocking Grasp, as this is the only spell in BG3 that can be cast as a reaction, which is not something I can choose via respec for Shadowheart when I don't pick her as my main.


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