Originally Posted by Madscientist
My opinion is: BG3 would profit from being more DnD and less DOS.
I never finished DOS2 because I did not like the combat system: The whole screen was on fire all the time.
I did not like the armor system and I did not like how numbers scale with level, so the numbers of stats and damage almost doubled on every level up.

So I am happy for the change to DnD and I dislike lots of changes made to DnD, like the shove madness.
It helped fight the stat inflation a bit, I don´t think we have enemies with several 1000 HP. (at least I hope so, I have not finished it yet)
My opinion is, that throwing 3 fireballs per turn or using 6 attacks with smite every turn, then rest and repeat is not interesting gameplay.
Making concentration or CC close to useless did not make the game better.

To be fair, Pathfinder WotR is far from perfect too.
Enemies have also very inflated stats so you need to be an expert in stat stacking to hit anything at all.
I finished the game on normal and it became relatively easy once you understand the system well, but buffing for a minute to finish the fights in two rounds gets also boring when you do it 100 times.
I can totally understand if new players say that this is too much for them, they want to play and not have a math exercise.

So I think DnD 5E is a good compromise between "nerds and noobs" if you follow the official rules.
The basic rules are rather easy to understand and it makes a difference what class you chose.
You can never make everybody happy, so I guess it makes sense to stick with a system that has proven to be working, millions of players use it already.

In my opinion larian still "suffers" from its early successes.
Divine Divinety was a single char action game (aka Diablo clone) and a classless system with random loot and shops change their inventory every day was fine.
The same item system works not so well in a turn based game with a full party. Its one part of DOS 1+2 I did not like.
I am happy they went to the DnD system and I hope they go further in this direction.
I know the term "suffers" feels strange when Larian sells more copies with every game, but I think BG3 would be better if it was closer to DnD.

100% agree. I love WotR but you are right buffing is really annoying there. But you got some really cool legend pathfs there. Lich is my favorite path which i can use to play on unfair. You feel really powerful and you get some really nasty spells only for Lich. In BG you can become a octopus and get the same stuff like all other companions eating larvae. But i prefer the D&D 5e system when it comes to the attributes. In PF you have to increase them to infinty and i do not like this. But i prefer the combat system in PF because i always play as a sorcerer and the spells in WotR are much better than in BG3.