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I think Act II needs more content, I would have really liked to see it
after the curse is lifted
. For transition content getting you to the city, it's a little sparse on content compared to the other acts.

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Speaking of "more content" I can't help but wonder to what happened to the claim Swen Vincke made that Act 2 was going to be "the largest portion of the game by a wide margin".
...That doesn't seem even remotely true, does it?

And to be clear, I'm not exactly unhappy with how big BG3 turned out to be, I'm just saying.


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If you explore everything in Act 2 it is very large. If you just do the main quest and skip everything else its small.

Your choice on how to play.

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What was cut:
1)Tav and DU
were divided.
2) cazador and his confrontation with the Butcher and Orin
3) cult Bhaal and Orin attacks cresh,
Orin infects the dragon
4) Raven Queen Act 2
5) Hagse coven in BG
6) Baldurs Gate, maybe Averno
7) Minsc in Act 1
8) Gur story.


Bosses should have been placed like this
Act 1 Ketrak
Act 2 Orin at Baldur's Gate
Act 3 Gortash


And its not all. In this time i looking for more information

And at first glance it may seem that there is a lot of content. But I checked the full list of quests, and I will say that this is just an illusion.

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Originally Posted by DumbleDorf
If you explore everything in Act 2 it is very large. If you just do the main quest and skip everything else its small.

Your choice on how to play.
Thanks, this doesn't even remotely begin to answer my question!


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Originally Posted by AkaiMikadzuki
What was cut:
1)Tav and DU
were divided.
2) cazador and his confrontation with the Butcher and Orin
3) cult Bhaal and Orin attacks cresh,
Orin infects the dragon
4) Raven Queen Act 2
5) Hagse coven in BG
6) Baldurs Gate, maybe Averno
7) Minsc in Act 1
8) Gur story.


Bosses should have been placed like this
Act 1 Ketrak
Act 2 Orin at Baldur's Gate
Act 3 Gortash


And its not all. In this time i looking for more information

And at first glance it may seem that there is a lot of content. But I checked the full list of quests, and I will say that this is just an illusion.
Where are you getting this info from?
It sounds VERY plausible, to be clear, but also a bit too specific to be just a wild guess.
And few things you are mentioning (i.e. Raven Queen) I'm not even sure what were supposed to be.


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Sounds like typical Larian. They made act 1 spectacular, and I think it's so good because of early access they were able to polish it up quite a bit but act 2 and 3 have not had player feedback. I think they will eventually keep adding and fixing both the acts in the future

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I missed some dialogues, but from the 2nd time the game went almost completely. 90-95% I think. Skipping some small quests

Time
Act 1 25 hours with gith cresh
Act 2 15 hours full map
Act 3 40 hours. But not because of the huge number of quests, but because of the long search and running around. 2nd time I think it will not take more than 25 hours and I often moved away from the PC without leaving the game

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https://www.pcgamer.com/baldurs-gate-3-dev-diary-city-reveal-pcgs-2023/

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About Gur


As for the coven, I didn't find any vids, but Ethel was written by her sister from the coven in Baldur's Gate


The Raven Queen was associated with a man and a white crow in Act 2.


I’ll also add that the characters have 12 hours of replicas, with all my desire I don’t see 12 hours of Astarion or SH

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There are theories, but there are also lines that were in the dialogues. This is correct information, everything is very similar to what we received and what was cut.
I think if I have the patience, I will find more information, most likely I will make a video on the topic of the cut content.
Maybe I can translate the text and post an extended topic here. In writing, of course.

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Originally Posted by Tuco
Originally Posted by DumbleDorf
If you explore everything in Act 2 it is very large. If you just do the main quest and skip everything else its small.

Your choice on how to play.
Thanks, this doesn't even remotely begin to answer my question!
It’s also not true. I explored every inch of that map, and before Moonrise started at the perimeter, made the way around, and gradually moved toward the center looking for more content. I went in every cave and hole, opened every door, lock picked and broke into everything I could. Act 2 is SPARSE. I resolved every quest one could resolve in Act 2.


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Originally Posted by Tuco
Originally Posted by AkaiMikadzuki
What was cut:
1)Tav and DU
were divided.
2) cazador and his confrontation with the Butcher and Orin
3) cult Bhaal and Orin attacks cresh,
Orin infects the dragon
4) Raven Queen Act 2
5) Hagse coven in BG
6) Baldurs Gate, maybe Averno
7) Minsc in Act 1
8) Gur story.


Bosses should have been placed like this
Act 1 Ketrak
Act 2 Orin at Baldur's Gate
Act 3 Gortash


And its not all. In this time i looking for more information

And at first glance it may seem that there is a lot of content. But I checked the full list of quests, and I will say that this is just an illusion.
Where are you getting this info from?
It sounds VERY plausible, to be clear, but also a bit too specific to be just a wild guess.
And few things you are mentioning (i.e. Raven Queen) I'm not even sure what were supposed to be.

Datamined from the early access files. A particularly major alteration was the Guardian, where seemingly the original dream visitor, Daisy, was in fact
two entities -- the Absolute and Orpheus -- trying to talk to the player
and there was a lot more reactivity for, say, a no powers run.

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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
It’s also not true. I explored every inch of that map, and before Moonrise started at the perimeter, made the way around, and gradually moved toward the center looking for more content. I went in every cave and hole, opened every door, lock picked and broke into everything I could. Act 2 is SPARSE. I resolved every quest one could resolve in Act 2.
Oh, I know very well it's not true because I also played Act as I always do in these games: as a completionist half-obsessed about doing everything I can.

So, yeah, that wasn't even remotely a honest answer to my question, let alone a pertinent one.

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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
Originally Posted by Tuco
Originally Posted by DumbleDorf
If you explore everything in Act 2 it is very large. If you just do the main quest and skip everything else its small.

Your choice on how to play.
Thanks, this doesn't even remotely begin to answer my question!
It’s also not true. I explored every inch of that map, and before Moonrise started at the perimeter, made the way around, and gradually moved toward the center looking for more content. I went in every cave and hole, opened every door, lock picked and broke into everything I could. Act 2 is SPARSE. I resolved every quest one could resolve in Act 2.

How many hours did it take you to complete each act?

I'm 22 hours into act 2 and barely finished it yet, act 1 takes about 30 hours on average?

Act 2 isn't just the shadow place, its gith creche as well, theres 2 maps for act 2, same as act 1, just that they're in different places.

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An interesting thing to note re: the cut Githyanki creche stuff is how Voss shows up afterward with some unexplained injuries to his face, and his red dragon does not appear and its absence is not noted (until it shows up at the very end of the game for a very brief cameo in Act 3.)

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Also, not quite cut content, but I suspect there was once a greater use for soul coins rather than giving Karlach a power-up. I've seen some speculation that they were related to Withers. Bit grim to have coins containing a soul exist to give Karlach some mild fire damage.

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Originally Posted by DumbleDorf
How many hours did it take you to complete each act?

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I'm 22 hours into act 2 and barely finished it yet, act 1 takes about 30 hours on average?

Act 2 isn't just the shadow place, its gith creche as well, theres 2 maps for act 2, same as act 1, just that they're in different places.

Act 2 is definitely the smallest Act no doubt about it. The Gith Crèche is actually still part of Act 1 and can be completed alongside Grymforge before entering the Shadowlands. You can check your game achievement for completing Act 1 which describes entering Act 2 as entering the shadowlands.

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Just wow. Rooky numbers compared to BG2's 100 to 300 hours (with no cinematics nor turn base combat!).
No wonder speed runners finished BG3 in less than 10 minutes. (To put this into perspective, it took speed runners 23 years to get BG2's best speedrun down to around 20 minutes.
In another year I am expecting BG3 runs to go down to less than 3 minute. 1 minute for each act wink

Just shows solid game design versus shit swiss cheese game design full of gaps and shortcuts.

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It just reminded me of the bowl of goat's milk that old Winthrop used to put outside his door every evening for the dust demons. He said the dust demons could never resist goat's milk, and that they would always drink themselves into a stupor and then be too tired to enter his room..
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Originally Posted by Muz333
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How many hours did it take you to complete each act?

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I'm 22 hours into act 2 and barely finished it yet, act 1 takes about 30 hours on average?

Act 2 isn't just the shadow place, its gith creche as well, theres 2 maps for act 2, same as act 1, just that they're in different places.

Act 2 is definitely the smallest Act no doubt about it. The Gith Crèche is actually still part of Act 1 and can be completed alongside Grymforge before entering the Shadowlands. You can check your game achievement for completing Act 1 which describes entering Act 2 as entering the shadowlands.
This. Gith Crèche is Act 1. Act 2 is Shadows only. I’ll check my hours later and update.


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I thought I remembered Larian saying that act 3 was the longest act, not act 2. Which so far feels like that's true mostly. Though I didn't do Underdark and mountain pass (and I think I missed a lot of the mountain pass anyway) so not sure.

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Larian, including Sven, said a lot which turned out to be fake. Like
hinting that there will be consequences for using too many tadpoles....

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