Originally Posted by Darth_Trethon
Originally Posted by Volourn
Clerics aren't boring. Period. Anyone who claims otherwise is wrong. Clerics are amongst the most varied of vlssses. The problem is people are stuck in the 'cleric= healer' mindset. That is is.
Clerics are great, but there are two main reasons people aren't playing them: 1) everyone is already rolling with Shadowheart, and there is no room for a second cleric in the party, and 2) Clerics don't fill the face role, which only the player character can properly fill in BG3, and is extremely important to the game.

Originally Posted by Volourn
Dwarves are awesome. Dwarves are cool. The fact that Dwarves are in the bottom third if races innbg3 speaks to larian's racism against them. They gaslit their players:( Too bad sunce they handled Dwarves pretty good IN DOS2.
This is...no...just no. Larian didn't tell anyone not to play dwarves. Humans and Dragonborns are significantly worse than Dwarves too mechanically speaking as those two races have nothing going for them yet are still insanely popular. The reality is very simple: nobody wants to play as dwarves.
Not true re Face. Knowledge Cleric with 12 (or 14 if you can spare it) CHA who chooses all CHA-based proficiencies is a good face, and they also have Knowledge Expertise if you need it and good Insight. Make it a Githyanki and you can have proficiency with all WIS- and CHA-based skills, most INT-based (including Expertise in two) and a couple DEX-based ones, too, if you choose the right background. That makes a better face than almost any other class because it isn't always just a Persuade check. I made a GIth Knowledge Cleric with balanced stats who rarely failed any face tests.

Also, mechanically, dwarves suck, especially Shield Dwarves. In EA there was an interesting option for a Shield Dwarf Wizard or Sorcerer with Medium Armor, but now that Humans and Half-Elves can use Shields, they are better (even humans!) than Shield Dwarves. Half-Elves (wood) laugh at silly dwarves (mechanically). It shouldn't be that way, but it is.