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My assault on Wyrm Keep felt maybe a little buggy I just wanted to verify if you destroy the foundry and the Iron Throne before going there everyone is hostile, and when you reach Gortash there isn't any dialogue between him and the party. Also does Karlach have any scenes with Gortash after him being annointed Archduke?

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Obvious spoiler.

I told Gortash I'd think about his deal during our first meeting. I rescued the hostages (game stated that this would make Gortash's deal unavailable. I destroyed the foundry pre-assault and disabled the steel watch. I brought Karlach with me to the Gortash fight. I fought the bottom floor enemies (everyone hostile) but skipped the coronation hall (patriars and nobles + some cultists?) and climbed the walls instead.

All flaming fists were hostile (mainly bottom floor). All bodyguards were hostile (ground floor, mess hall). Patriars and nobles we're neutral and ran away unless attacked. All cultists (coronation hall and Gortash fight) were hostile. Gortash had some dialogue with Karlach and said that he made a deal with me. My only response was to side with Karlach.

Just like the rest of the game (especially act 3) there are plenty of missing or broken flags concerning story progression. That it ended in a fight was expected and that I didn't have any choice made sense. From what I understand there's a lot of Gortash content missing though and his entire story arc feels a bit empty.
Unrelated spoiler (meeting Volo in act 3)

If you keep Minsc in your party he'll just go ahead and trigger a fight for you (not sure what happens if you don't have him in your party). I think it makes sense that Minsc and his chaotic good nature makes such a fight unavoidable in the same way as me not having any option to support Karlach and get into a fight with Gortash. Reflecting my support of Karlach, her relationship with Gortash and my previous actions.

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It was a little different for me than a description above.
Maybe it's due to the fact that I cleared every floor instead of climbing the wall. I told Gortash I'd think about the deal as well, but no dialogue with him was triggered during confrontation. He and two of his bodyguard took their turns while I fought with security below by the way, but they couldn't/wouldn't get down to me, they were just repeating same actions over and over. Once I got up to his floor he seemed to notice and left the hall to fight me on the walls.
Karlach reacted to his death with anger - she stated that all of her suffering was for nothing, and Gortash's death didn't change anything or help improve her situation.

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Thanks for the response, it looks like there could be a dialogue between Gortash and Karlach that didn't trigger for me or Fasper.
I think I saw the scene in question going back and going to Gortash directly after dealing with Orin. I went through the coronation hall, but climbed the scaffolding behind it to get to Gortash.

You're right about the it feeling like Gortash's presence is a little sparse.


As for Volo, I don't think you can avoid a fight there, so it was probably a fun opportunity to have a Minsc moment.


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