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I really hope you can still romance her while in the Shar path. It seems much more interesting than yet another goodie-two-shoes redemption, but being cut off from romance because of it would suck. You can actually find info on all of SH's quests here: https://guides4gamers.com/baldurs-gate-3/quest/daughter-of-darkness/The stuff she gets to on Shar path is wild, but romance is separate from quests, so we know nothing about that yet.
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Joined: Nov 2020
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I'm basically a paladin, no matter what I'm actually playing in the game, so of course I freed/saved the Nightsong (who is AWESOME). Unfortunately that meant killing Shadowheart, but I wasn't really surprised - I'd mostly ignored her up until that point.
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Joined: Oct 2020
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I'm basically a paladin, no matter what I'm actually playing in the game, so of course I freed/saved the Nightsong (who is AWESOME). Unfortunately that meant killing Shadowheart, but I wasn't really surprised - I'd mostly ignored her up until that point. Did you have a low relationship with Shadow Heart? At high relationships, she drops the Nightspear, saves Nightsong, and then has the option to turn her faith to Selűne Such options exist
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old hand
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I had basically no relationship with Shadowheart, she was never in my party. I didn't even know I was supposed to be bringing her along during the trials (not that I would've agreed to help her become a Dark Justiciar in the first place). I just wanted to free a prisoner, my druid is all about freedom and junk.
On a future run, I'll probably pay more attention to Shadowheart and try to redeem her. I have a feeling she won't survive most of my runs, though.
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I really hope you can still romance her while in the Shar path. It seems much more interesting than yet another goodie-two-shoes redemption, but being cut off from romance because of it would suck. You can actually find info on all of SH's quests here: https://guides4gamers.com/baldurs-gate-3/quest/daughter-of-darkness/The stuff she gets to on Shar path is wild, but romance is separate from quests, so we know nothing about that yet. Got my information elsewhere, but for anyone wondering, you can continue her romance, with unique scenes and all.
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old hand
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I had basically no relationship with Shadowheart, she was never in my party. I didn't even know I was supposed to be bringing her along during the trials (not that I would've agreed to help her become a Dark Justiciar in the first place). I just wanted to free a prisoner, my druid is all about freedom and junk.
On a future run, I'll probably pay more attention to Shadowheart and try to redeem her. I have a feeling she won't survive most of my runs, though. Maybe it could be done with average approval, Shadowheart just needs to be in the party at that moment, and she can be persuaded to turn to the side of good
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Joined: Nov 2020
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I had average approval, but my attempt at talking her down did nothing. I didn't even get a high DC persuasion roll or something along those lines. It may depend on having completed some other quest of hers beforehand? I dunno.
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Joined: Aug 2023
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I'd say that NOT killing the Nightsong is the better route here.
Last edited by Onestepwalker; 06/08/23 09:50 PM.
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You lose a lot, but not necessarily people you'd have on your side in an evil playthrough. "Better" won't be universal, at least.
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Joined: Jun 2020
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Curious how her survival plays into that quest you picked from Aradin, something about the Wizard Lorroakan if I recall correctly.
Last edited by TheAscendent; 07/08/23 08:01 AM.
Evil always finds a way.
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Her survival is quite relevant to that quest. Since I spared her, she... well, let's say she took an active role in that particular quest.
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I went through the game twice, and I can say with confidence that leaving her alive is the only right decision.
In the option where Shadow Heart becomes the Chosen of Lady Shar, she lacks divine powers like Orin, Gortash, and Ketherik Torm, and some dark content INSTEAD OF A LOT OF LOST as a result of this decision. This could somehow motivate the player to kill the Nightsong, but now it's disgusting
I think at least we need content + spell to become Lady Shar's avatar, which can be used once per adventure, as well as divine intervention
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To clarify something they do not, you CAN not only keep romancing shadowheart(there is a difference romance/sex scene in act 3 if she is loyal to Shar vs Selune) but you will also have another chance at redeeming Shadowheart(though if you redeem her later she will no longer change her hair to white). IMO it's MUCH better to redeem her later and let her have fun stabbing. I believe you can also save Jaheira if you go to Last Light first, kill Isobel yourself(particularly good for the Dark Urge who gets an amazing reward to killing Isobel), and then deceive and recruit Jaheira. If you go straight for Nightsong then Last Light gets wiped out when she dies and without you being there to help Jaheira dies too. So yeah, that article isn't very accurate...you can significantly reduce the cost of allowing an extra bit of stabbing. What kind of monster would I have to be to deny my companions' requests to stab people?
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Curious how her survival plays into that quest you picked from Aradin, something about the Wizard Lorroakan if I recall correctly. It's basically broken. Like, probably the buggiest/weirdest part of Act 3. In my playthrough, this is what happened:
Go to Sorcerous Sundiries.
End up talking to Lorroakan.
Tell Lorrokan I know where Nightsong is.
Lorroakan reveals that his plan is to trap her again and become immortal.
He also has a sceptre which can mind control her.
Pass a check to say she's dead, actually.
Lorroakan basically goes 'curses, foiled again.'
Return to camp, Nightsong is off to kill Lorrokan.
There is no chance to warn her about the sceptre.
This feels like what Lorroakan wants.
Nightsong confronts him.
Lorrokan does not use the sceptre; gets owned.
Nightsong vanishes from camp.
Aradin shows up to claim the bounty, gets owned.
Quest successful?
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It seems to me that one obvious option is missing.
Why can't our protagonist use the ancient knowledge and captivate Dame Aylin on his own to gain immortality? That would be a real TEMPTATION to take the path of evil. What's the point in gold, or senseless cruelty.
It doesn't break the game if this immortality is the same as Dame Aylin. It is possible to lose even with him if the party is dead and the player is left with 1 hp against a group of enemies, and spends moves to resurrect over and over again
Last edited by OneManArmy; 20/08/23 12:49 PM.
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