Originally Posted by Sozz
Originally Posted by Raphael
What’s better than the devil you don’t know?

It’s hard for me to believe Orpheus could be worse than Vlaakith, but I think there’s the risk he might be competent where Vlaakith is self serving

The schism among the Gith occurred while Gith was still around so her chosen heir following in those footsteps could be good or bad, or good and bad. Based on the trainee Gith we see being disciplined though maybe he’ll usher in an era of kinder gentler Gith, who murder only discriminately.

I liked Lae’zel in the EA and was especially curious to know how they’d square loyalty to her people with adventuring and the tadpole. I think they came up with an interesting reason and a believable one for her character.

Well done you.

One can hope. My knowledge of the Gith is pretty spotty - I was never much interested in illithids or spelljammer - but I vaguely remember that the Githzeri believe that Gith had lost her moral compass during the slave uprising so her son might be just as evil. And, as you say, there is the worry that he could be more competent. But here's hoping that Tav's meddling will lead the Gith to focus less on raiding and more on killing ghaik.

Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Yeah, that was a bit odd. I figured she'd be 100% behind us not exploiting trapped souls for our own benefit. I wish there was some other, more redemptive use for soul coins.

Agreed - she doesn't even budge after she learns that one of the souls isn't evil. It isn't necessarily bad writing - I can imagine Karlach being in denial about her actions but it feel undeveloped. Feels like a potentially big plot point that boiled down to "enhanced potions for one of the origin characters"

@Timoleth

All of the Origin companions have a "Mary Sue" quality. I don't think dragon riding, silver sword wielding is a bad dream for a Gith and achieving it all by level 12 is quite and an accomplishment. But is so stopping the grand design. But is Mary Sue the best template to apply ? Is Lae'zel truly the best at everything? I thought she was written to be bit a bit thick headed and that's why follows Tav's orders.

I *completely* understand you not being happy that Lae'zel stole the thunder from your Tav! But that's a flaw of the Origin system. My Tav was level 1 cleric of Mystra / 11 wizard and there was no way I was to going to take Gale along with me only to steal the show from my Tav!

I'm saying that the point you are making is good one but I see it more as an indictment of the Origin character system than of Lae'zel specifically.

Supposedly this has been fixed with the Dark Urge but I'm not planning to play that until and unless Larian removes the DU's murdering of NPCs and animals.

Long story short: I think your complaint is valid but I think it's a problem with Origin system not with Lae'zel as a character.

Last edited by KillerRabbit; 22/08/23 03:25 PM.